I posted this on the TAPS forum. Maybe someone with an active ghost will try it. Thought I would repost it here for your thoughts…

The idea is to use two EMF meters, both of the same model and make otherwise I can see potential problems. EMF meter brand of your choice. Space them far enough apart that ghostie can only set off one meter at a time. How far apart they should be might be a matter of experimentation, maybe a couple of feet, maybe a few metres. Label one meter YES and the other meter NO. For illiterate ghosties colour perhaps the RED meter NO and the BLUE meter YES, but the colour is up to you. For colour blind illiterate ghosties make one white and one black. I believe the K2 can be bought in different colours these days anyway. For totally blind ghosties, well just give up. 

Those that sell EMF meters will love this idea as they will sell twice as many meters.

This method of questioning should be far more reliable than the blink 1 for no 2 for yes, er 1 for yes none for no, er…… And also remove a lot of doubt with false hits. For instance if both meters activate at once you either have a false hit or the ghost is not only illiterate but stupid and who would want to talk to a stupid ghost?

More meters could be used for letters, numbers or words but this would get cumbersome and expensive. 36 meters would cover the alphabet and numerals, but there must be a better way to do that. Perhaps a single meter with 36 attached probes, but I have no idea how to set that up.

There are other groups out there that claim to have success with EMF meters. Maybe this idea will help a bit. Maybe not. It's worth a try.

Considering your stuck with yes/no answers, what questions would you ask?

Learjet said:

Considering your stuck with yes/no answers, what questions would you ask?

Hmmm…being a scientist myself for many years, my first instinct would be to get the "ghost" into a controlled environment for proper testing.

I would test out GH's theory of "haunted artifacts (a ghost being "bound" to a physical object)."  So one of the lines of questioning would be as follows:

Is there a particular object in this room that draws you to this location?  If yes…

Are you in some way bound to this object?  If yes…

(A series of questions to find which object it actually is)

If this object is moved to another location, will you follow it?  If yes…

Is there a geographical limitation as to how far you can travel in order to be with said object?  If yes then questions about the limitations.  If no…

Are you willing to submit to various testing in a new location with this object in order to further our understanding of you?  If yes…then bingo!

First, a lab would need to be set up.  Second, a wide range of equipment would need to be brought in.  Next, gather as many experts as possible from different scientific fields.  My personal expertise, chemistry, would be severely limited unless the ghost could produce "ectoplasm" or some other unknown physical substance.  So I guess I would make the argument that since I already established a line of communication with the ghost, it would be best, for the time being, that we do not alter it.  That way, I would have a legimate reason to still hang out for the testing. 

Revenant said:

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Hmmm…being a scientist myself for many years, my first instinct would be to get the "ghost" into a controlled environment for proper testing.

Nice …   It might even lead to some way of decerning just what object is linked to a ghost without their cooperation. 

J & G could go to a house where some nasty spirit is scaring a child, flash the patented Learvenant object detector around, and they drive off with "Nearly Headless Nick"  to the new wing at the Spalding Inn.  Don't even have to turn the lights out.

We can be skeptical, but that does not mean we can't devise paths of inquiry and methods that can be tested.

On a different note -

Grant talks about a "fear cage" as if it is an established fact. How about testing that ?

I'm sure a standard design  could be constructed  for little money from parts at any Home Depot that would put out nice big emf when plugged in.  With the interest in the paranormal local groups would have plenty of volunteers to be tested. It would make sense that every group have at least one investigator that is sensitive to this.

If I recall, the closest our seasoned investigators got to this idea was when they put Kris in the room with the broken ceiling fan.

A portable unit would allow a preliminary team to go in and test the occupants or employees before J & G fly in.    I'm guessing that operation would be made simple enough that even TechMangler Steve could handle it.

Unless the EM fields are very high and exposure prolonged, I think ES is all moo poo.

If not moo poo then ES sufferers should NOT be able to watch TV, cook meals in microwave or conventional electric ovens, use a toaster, hairdryer, use power tools, vacuum the floor, walk under powerlines, drive a car, charge batteries, use a computer, use a handset telephone or cell phone, use headphones or earpieces, use an electric shaver, heater, blanket, fan or air conditioner, fluorescent light, walk in sunlight, do the washing and on and on….

The average kitchen should be a fear cage. Workshop, living room, play room, office.

My electric blanket produces 10-15mg. I wonder if they use them at the SINN?

Back to the original topic:

I agree that having separate meters for yes and no would be preferable to just the single K2, especially since the amount of time for "No" isn't specified.

I'd also like to enclose the rig in a large Faraday cage. You could even leave the cage open until the conversation has started to ensure that the ghost has access. If the conversation suddenly stopped when the cage closed, that would be… interesting.

Learjet said:

So many experiments to do and so few ghosts to do them on.

Too bad the guys that say they are able to find them are so clueless when it comes to figuring out what to do with them.

If we get Casper to lower the air temperature, or suck energy out of nearby batteries, just how to we track where that energy goes ?

Nosfer said:

Well, in "theory" that energy is going into the entity, being absorbed so as to manifest. My question, then, has always been why do they detect just a cold spot. If there is an energy transfer, we should see a cold spot as being a SHELL around a warm spot which is the entity, the cold spot being the air with the "energy sucked out of it". I don't think we've ever seen that reported, though.

The tight-array of recording thermometers that I've often suggested would be ideal for recording this, but ohhhhhh nooooo…

Yeah, I'm right there with you.  I've always wondered the same thing.  The only theory that I've ever come up with is that the cold spots are representing only the "energy sucking" stage of the process, not the ghost itself.  Since the FLIR cannot take ambient temperature readings of "free-floating" cold spots, it doesn't show up.  After the "energy-suck" stage, the ghost then converts said energy into heat and then..into…whatever it is.  In this new stage, this heated-up "thing" has a somewhat reflective surface, so the FLIR can then see it.  And…without the cold shell around it because that stage of the process is over.  I'm not saying that I endorse this theory in the least.  I am only saying that it probably how paranormal investigators are probably explaining it to themselves.

Now…what can "suck" energy, leave a cold spot in mid-air that a person can detect with their ordinary senses, convert it to heat and then produce a good enough surface area in which a FLIR can detect it?  Um…yeah…I've got no real world example to give that can cover all of that.  It's kind of going against the second law of thermodynamics.  I'm sure someone can give some mondo-bizarro quantum physics example, but I'm not sure how that would work on a macro level.  Maybe even some spacial anomaly, but again, unless you've got the raw power of a star or a black hole, I'm not seeing how it's done.  I've even looked at various explosions (neutron bombs, cobalt bombs, etc) and that was a dead-end as well. 

That whole "energy-sucking and leaving a cold spot" thing is very perplexing.  Something tells me that it isn't right.  It seems logical…but maybe it isn't.  If…and that's a mighty big "if"…something is draining energy/power and leaving a free-floating cold spot in an environment and if something is heating up and spontaneously creating a heated surface area large enough and hot enough for a FLIR to detect, maybe…they are separate incidents.  Maybe one has nothing to do with the other.  It has only been assumed so.  This is not logical since neither really have been proven to any great scientific degree.  To simply assume that they are connected is a faulty assumption.  All I'm saying is that maybe we should look at these two "experiences" as separate entities instead of an "if this, then that" type of thing.   

Can't say I recall a show where this happens either.

What I do remember is cold spots being linked to high EMF readings. They even make a meter with combined EMF detector and thermometer now - the MEL meter.

Like video cameras, a TIR camera is likely to produce an increase in EMF on it's own. Not a good idea to pair it close to an EMF meter lest one get false readings. A thermometer though should be fairly EMF quiet.