In the SciFi thread, the OP's claim doesn't appear valid. They did not play us the same footage and just shift it a minute in time. See my statement above about the horizon being identical. Now as for air-brushing the object, I'd say that is a possibility, but I put it down a ways at the moment for the simple fact that the two objects do not move uniformly, the relative distance CHANGES, and for a group who couldn't recognize a spider and takes the easy way out, I seriously doubt they'd be adjusting frames to give the effect; that seems way beyond them. Why would they erase the timestamp when they said right off that they superimposed their footage onto the original ridgeline?

The object in the Experiment Camera side of the shot does not move at the same rate as the one in the Original Video. If, as is claimed lower down in that thread, they were so lazy they didn't remove the timestamp (and why would they, they said as much that they used the original footage!), why would they have taken the effort to go in and change the frame-rate of the clip?

I've zoomed the video on on my TV and I can see the edit, where there is an object with a lighter color around it dropped into the scene, however, to get rid of the bulb at the bottom of the original, the edit area would have to be larger than it is. What is seen as airbrushing may be the clipping of the FoF experiment balloon to add to the original video. Furthermore, the Experiment Camera side is running at a full 30 frames per second, ie 1 second elapsed on the timestamp for 1 second of real time, which indicates to me that the frame rate has NOT changed. I verified this by counting frames on the Experiment Camera side which shows the timestamp from 8:12:31 PM changing to 8:12:32 PM. This second took 30 frames.

I then went back to the beginning when they set up the shot and show the exact same time frame 8:12:31 PM to 8:12:32 PM I framed through that one second of time and it was a full 30 frames as well. The positions of the balloon in the clip shown at the beginning matched the Original Video positions at the end. The balloon position in the Experimental Camera footage right as the seconds turn to 31 or to 32 does not match where it would be in the Original Video at those time-marks. Thus this is probably is not a simple airbrushing as is claimed.

I'm guessing that sky was copied and pasted in the original to remove the original object. Sky is pretty uniform so we would not see this. Then the object they filmed was taken from another source and clipped as close as possible and inserted into the scene without touching up the collar to be the same color as the sky, thus the artifact.

In that same thread, someone is claiming that the McKinney footage was faked. I concur, in part, when they first put McKinney, TX on the screen, they are not in McKinney…yet. Bringing up Google Earth and flying around McKinney does not show any mountains like we see in the episode. However, the McKinney Texas Day 2 scene with the Jet Pack IS legit, the area codes on the Aero Country Airport match, and that Airport is indeed in McKinney. Possibly they filmed enroute and what we see with mountains is when they were still in western Texas and they didn't give turn by turn screen text of where they were, so I'm going to give them a bit of slack here.

Ghaleon, did they happen to post any actual link TO the debunk or was it just more of the "oh that was debunked already" type of thing?  I've seen a lot of those (the hovering humanoid as well) but scant evidence to back up the debunk claim, either.  I have to take those stories with as much NaCl as the FoF episodes.

I remember him filling balloons and doing several experiments of varying levels with the balloons.  That would be the MQ episode I recall.  First just loose balloons, then slightly contained, then wrapped in plastic.  However, I don't recall this as being the video they were comparing to.  It was a humanoid case and it was in Mexico, I just remember it being over a city because they were launching from someone's backyard.

Actually, the mind is the second thing to go.  The first is the…is the…now what the heck was it again? :)