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9:08 am
August 20, 2010
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Nosfer
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I am really finding it hard to believe that anyone can miss this much and conduct investigations in this poor of manner. Simply pausing the "ghost soldier" video revealed a very clear spider. Are we being misdirected here? Perhaps being led to focus our efforts on the things here rather than cast the same wary eye at other shows on the network?
I offer as a recap:
- What is probably a hare is turned into a cat/boar hybrid, this after the team declares that they find the exact spot the video was shot from although it was actually shot 45 miles away in another County.
- A simple orb weaver sitting in the middle of its web is turned into something paranormal, this after failing to recreate the video using an ATV, a dust devil generator, and a misting apparatus.
- The team fails to notice that the mysterious Paulding Light video is showing headlights and taillights.
- The team recreates a lake monster (in a man-made lake as Revenant points out) fairly well but since it’s not exact they leave it unexplained.
- The team recreates a big balloon UFO flight and then calls a park ranger who says “oh, yeah, there were some people launching a UFO balloon that day”
- The team’s research fails to turn up the fact that the San Antonio train crossing story was debunked at least seven years earlier.
- The team mimics ghost writing in their test but since they can’t recreate it in the house, they dismiss their findings and leave the case unexplained. A case that has been described many times before, too, I might add.
That's 7 of the 12 cases so far and the remaining 5 weren't flawless, either…
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10:45 am
August 20, 2010
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AbsoluteTerrorField
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Nosfer, you bring up a very interesting point. With the wild mishandling of events that this show involves itself in it really does make the other paranormal shows on SyFy look good. Yet to see whether they've taken Destination Truth further down the hole, but we'll see on september 9th.
From what I've been able to find out a lot of people are turning away from this show because of how outright dumb most of this stuff is. Unless there's a miraculous turn about then I don't foresee this show lasting very long. Then again like you said with the gross negligence shown it could just be something to make GH and GHI look like the 'be all end all' of paranormal.
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11:42 am
August 20, 2010
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blinddog
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The state of the paranormal genre?…….."Ladies and Gentlemen". "Elvis has left the building".
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Double tap to the head. Don't become Undead.
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12:38 pm
August 20, 2010
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Liz M
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I was watching travel channel the other day, it was a show about mobile homes – from the pop-up trailer types to mansions on wheels. I'm pretty sure the host was the "photography expert" from FoF. Not that I thought they have real experts on the show, but at least try to get someone who's never been on tv. I wonder where the CIA/FBI guy is really from.
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11:10 am
August 21, 2010
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Stephen
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I don't think that they're deliberately trying to misdirect the skeptics. I think that they just don't care. Previous experience has shown that the audience will accept anything presented by friendly faces onscreen.
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7:17 am
August 22, 2010
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blinddog
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Never overestimate the intelligence of the american public.
Just look at the past 20 years.
I've always said that if today's human species is the epitomy of hundreds of thousands of years of evolution, then the caveman must have been one dumbass sob.
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Double tap to the head. Don't become Undead.
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7:42 am
August 22, 2010
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I get the feeling they are trying to imitate Mythbusters, however they're doin it rong. http://yfrog.com/9fwrongdj
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8:19 am
August 22, 2010
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Nosfer
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And wrong on so many fronts. The ideas are _so_ way out, the conclusions aren't even close, and they aren't blowing up enough stuff :) They should have at least shot Austin and the ATV out of a cannon to get him "to speed" I mean, if they are going to fore go reality, they need to do it in a big way, otherwise they have no gimmick to keep them going!
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8:40 am
August 22, 2010
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Bobarino
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I would like to point out, for the record, that I was one of the few who voted "no" on this show in the poll….
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I've found that being AWESOME is a full time job…
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1:57 am
October 1, 2010
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Ghaleon
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The first time I watched this show and I saw Bill Murphy, I literally thought SyFy had hired Bruce Springsteen for a paranormal show. But then it said lead scientist instead of The Boss then I knew I was completely wrong!
I love watching this show just for the laughs. The one thing that really peeved me about it though was them bringing the Paulding Light back to life. It was starting to fade because it had been debunked so many times as headlights and the owner of the souvenier store was starting to get worried. But have no fear, FoF is here! They single handedly revived this womans business and restored all of the "light believers" faith. There is a board on the net that is dedicated to this light and we had finally convinced everyone that it was headlights by showing them hard proof. Then FoF comes along and then we got run off of the board because they now have "proof" that their precious light exists.
Also note that on the very first episode where they try and recreate the "ghost car" they never once went to the owner of the property and asked about the fence. The officer said he was pretty sure that some of the brackets was not on it but he wasn't sure. They knew the fence was replaced but never once went and asked how the original fence was set up. But I have to give them kudos for finding a stunt driver that looks like a twin to Brian Knobbs of the Nasty Boys.lol
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Pain is weakness leaving the body!!!
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10:12 am
November 18, 2010
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Nosfer
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Some time has gone by and I could now double the length of my initial list. I still have to wonder about the actual intentions of this show. I don't think I could screw this many things up unless I were deliberately trying, and even then I think I'd need some help.
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10:18 pm
November 18, 2010
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Nosfer said:
I don't think I could screw this many things up unless I were deliberately trying, and even then I think I'd need some help.
I don't think there is much question anymore that the results are pre-determined … perhaps more so then the GH family.
They run some little experiment to duplicate whatever.
Then decide it's not good enough and McGuyver like, pull a bunch of stuff out to build another version.
Are we to believe they didn't figure out they were going to do that test before they arrived ?
That they just arrived on the site, tried something that didn't work, then ran out and rented a studio, constructed a glass-walled brick background tank and found thousands of flies to fill it with the next day ?
I would bet the producers have just about everything up and ready to go before the talent get their directions.
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8:41 am
April 21, 2011
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Nosfer
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Okay, let's add:
- Supposedly going back to Argentina to investigate stick-figure alien only to notice it's shadow is completely wrong and their subsequent deterimination that this was a fake was done by asking the guy at the news station. This was during an episode where a photography expert immediately jumped up and identified a ghost as a long-exposure blur.
- "Chupacabra" case which had been detailed and documented all over the place starting in 2007 (FoF episode aired in 2011) Acted as if this were completely new and ground-breaking when the results had been in for at least three years.
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6:33 pm
May 1, 2011
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Post edited 6:34 pm – May 1, 2011 by CrowTRobot
The Doctor said:
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I would bet the producers have just about everything up and ready to go before the talent get their directions.
Doc, what are you talking about?
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2:51 pm
May 9, 2011
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Post edited 2:52 pm – May 9, 2011 by Skooter
It's sad how many people eat these videos up. To me its a bad version of Mythbusters sprinkled with Ghost Hunters. Mythbusters make mistakes but at least:
1. They are ACTUAL experts
2. Will admit when they screwed something up and "revisit" it from fan complaints
3. 99% of the time have one of 3 outcomes (confirmed, plausable, busted)
4. Actually use science
I think it was a slightly different show that had unique parts and it made viewers want to watch because they could sit there and say "Hey I saw that on the news!" or saw it on youtube once and argued with some others over its validity. To me, people just believe what they see and hear and just accept it once its on TV. They accept that these people are "experts" instead of researching their actual crudentials. They accept the final outcome as the truth. I haven't looked up the producers of the show so I am not going to comment whether they know what they are doing or not, but to me, the public is too oblivious to think for themselves and since it has gotten decent enough ratings they don't want to change anything. When one actually thinks about it, this is by far one of the worst shows on television in this type of category. I read some of Austin's tweets and who he was replying to and it was pretty discouraging the number of people that LOVE this show. Unfortunatly I could not got him to respond to me. 
Edit: Missing Words
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2:57 pm
May 9, 2011
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I was really looking forwawd to this show when I first heard about it to. I am a big fan of mythbusters and always enjoyed the paranormal (ghost, UFO, ect.) ever since I was a little kid. It had great potential but the number of wrong turns they made can never bring it back.
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5:06 pm
May 9, 2011
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Nosfer
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"3. 99% of the time have one of 3 outcomes (confirmed, plausable, busted)"
What were the other 1%?
ACTUAL Experts. While they do have qualifications beyond what I see from a lot of other shows, what is an "expert" and IN WHAT? The term "expert" by itself means nothing, way to nebulous. Expert in what?
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11:45 pm
May 9, 2011
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Stephen
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It seems pretty clear to me that the determining factor on what to investigate is based largely on whether they think they can get some flashy footage. For example, why go to Whaley House to do an investigation which could have been conducted over the phone? Why investigate the "ghost train" when it was so obviously a spider?
Ironically, I think that what we see on FoF is kind of a distorted version of what goes on behind the scenes. I'm sure that the producers do pitch these scenarios to each other, but it's more on the order of "And then Austin can say…" We can't tell how pre-scripted these are, but there's definitely that element to them.
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7:37 am
May 10, 2011
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Well I mean it in a couple of ways…they are experts in my eye because I have seen what they can build, how they test it, and the resources they know how to use. Also, they have been hired as professionals in this field in several well known projects. Off the top of my head is Jamie and the robotic soda machine, and grant with the battling bots. I don't know what you can say they are experts of exactly but I consider them experts at what they are doing for the show. They do it, and they do it very well, unlike our FoF friends. I don't think you need to flash a science degree or get a certification to actually be an expert at something.
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