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I see that SciFi has finally corrected the title of the episode to read Namibian rather than Nambian although if you do a search you can still see a number of sites having it the original way, including my own TV grid.
Anyway, in this episode, Josh and crew drive up the road to investi…sorry, Josh and crew, after having flown 7500 miles from Namibia back to Los Angeles, now turn around and fly BACK another 7500 miles to Namibia to investigate the Night Stalker. This time they are in northern Namibia near the Etosha Pan which is a dry lake-bed. The color is from the salts in the area…think of the great salt flats in Utah.
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Here the team searches for something that is scaring the locals and attacking them. This almost seems to be a Made for DT creature, but they find hairs which they will analyze and let us know.
Jungle Temple Ghosts has the team flying over to Thailand (so expect at least one more Southeast Asia investigation this season) to investigate giant ghosts in a temple. Looks to be more of the same, chasing after things that may or may not be there, and some more "getting touched"
The Giant Spirits probably comes from the Yaks which are the temple guardians and can be seen in statue form at many of the temples. Presumably the team will be looking for one that is not quite as statue-like as the rest.
We seem to be running about 50/50 with the ghost episodes, I wish they would dial it back a bit and get back to more of the cryptid investigations. There are at least two reasons for this wish, one is that we already have at least 3.5 ghost hunting shows to watch. The second is that every time they go after ghosts, there's a good chance they may bring the evidence to people from a show that starts with G.
All in all I'm hoping this one will be better than the last pair we watched which, for me, was quite a low point for the series.
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8:02 pm April 5, 2011
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8:26 pm April 5, 2011
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Post edited 8:35 pm – April 5, 2011 by Nosfer
And Rex does it again. I agree, starting to wonder about this guy. The red marks couldn't have been from his hands could they? His hands were up pretty high…until for some reason we could only see the top of his head from his camera…his hands went pretty low. When have we ever not seen the person's entire head from their personally-mounted camera? Hmmmmm
Rex = Evan? Almost a Classic Romanian Circle of Death Replay
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8:48 pm April 5, 2011
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Jael manages to drive up there all by herself yet they all had to travel by boat because the road was untravelable? BS. This backstory of her in Namibia really loses a lot when we've already seen the episode last week. Are they looking at bringing her back after FoF tanks?
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9:04 pm April 5, 2011
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Post edited 9:17 pm – April 5, 2011 by Nosfer
This show has lost whatever credibility it had left. They had a breach on the southern leg of their triangular perimeter. Well, I went and measured the distance of the sides of their perimeter, would anyone care to guess how long their southern perimeter edge supposedly is?
Answer: A little over 70 MILES! Uh huh. The minimum distance from base camp to the southern perimeter is 26 miles or so yet Chris runs from base camp and finds the goat a few seconds away (obviously had nothing to do with the breach) (Josh narrates that it was slaughtered near their base camp)
I don't think they ever are going to get to their "Destination" if they keep this up.
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2:34 am April 6, 2011
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Nosfer said:
And Rex does it again. I agree, starting to wonder about this guy. The red marks couldn't have been from his hands could they? His hands were up pretty high…until for some reason we could only see the top of his head from his camera…his hands went pretty low. When have we ever not seen the person's entire head from their personally-mounted camera? Hmmmmm
Rex = Evan? Almost a Classic Romanian Circle of Death Replay
So Kris Williams, one of their paranormal experts…yeah…I'm going to give you guys a moment for that to sink in….so…Kris Williams, one of their paranormal experts (yeah…funnier the second time…) states:
"You can see his skin get pulled back."
Really? She saw this on a computer monitor. I've got a 52" HD TV and I couldn't see that. Does someone have a bigger TV and saw that? Any idea what she saw that doesn't seem available to the rest of us?
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9:32 am April 6, 2011
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Keeping resolution constant, as you get larger area (and depending upon your distance from the screen) you run into more degradation as perceived by the eye. One has to consider the angular resolution of the human eyeball and the effect of distance. Think of running 800x600 on a 14" monitor vs a 21" monitor and viewing both from the same distance. (Lest you laugh, years ago i had a case of someone running 640x480 on a 17"!) 14" is going to be more pleasing and useful since you're not even close to out-resolving the human eye. Move the 21" back far enough and they will be pretty much on par quality wise. Viewing up close on a good small HD monitor is going to be pretty sharp. Not that she saw anything on her monitor, either!
I think the limiting factor here is the resolution and quality of the cameras that they were using and the lighting and angle. Is Evan's, sorry, is Rex's personal-cam HD? (Serious question, I'm not sure, just because something is broadcast in HD doesn't mean it was shot in HD, could have been 480 or 720 and upscaled) For what they are filming with and the conditions, a good review monitor is probably on par with a 52" HDTV when viewed up closer and going larger isn't going to help things out. Not that she saw anything on her monitor, either!
Additionally they are in NV mode which is adding some grain. But, I don't think you'd see skin being pulled back on a 20" HD monitor OR a 104" HDTV at any distance since I wager the only skin being moved around was from Rex's own hands after he dropped his neck below camera range. As soon as he starts his antics, he tucks his head down and he is face on to his camera, hiding his neck. He then proceeds to duck his neck area completely down out of range of his camera.
Not that she saw anything on her monitor, either! 
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10:19 am April 6, 2011
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Either way, I'm guessing it was more a bug or dust or both that got caught in his windpipe. Sadly, Daphne/Kris and Barry…are seeing the footage AFTER editing. Which means if they are seeing the video, they are seeing the SAME VIDEO WE ARE. Where's the raw footage?
Could be also some post nasal drip that was affecting Evan/Rex????
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10:41 am April 6, 2011
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Seeing the footage AFTER editing? Yes, it's possible, but how do you know Josh wasn't playing the original for them? What signs do you see of editing? Yes, there is the chance of editing being done before they see it, but do you KNOW? Unfortunately without seeing a CoC (which I doubt there is) it's hard to trust any of what we see.
When you think of it, on ANY of these shows, the only stuff there is a halfway decent chance that we are guaranteed to be seeing the "raw" is during a live show if it's truly live. But, just because they pan away to Kris and Barry after we see Rex on the monitor doesn't mean that anything playing on the monitor was edited…yes, what we see is edited, but what they see COULD be raw. Or it could be edited. We don't know one way or the other.
A bug or dust is not going to give that reaction, and least not the way we saw it complete with Rex's explanation of hands around his throat. His looks just prior to it happening have an air of "someone getting ready to do something" about them.
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12:05 pm April 6, 2011
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Nosfer said:
A bug or dust is not going to give that reaction, and least not the way we saw it complete with Rex's explanation of hands around his throat. His looks just prior to it happening have an air of "someone getting ready to do something" about them.
I know. I found myself watching him closely during the live show to see what he was going to pull. He kept "seeing" and "hearing" things that oddly, no one else (or the camera's) could catch.
And really, I hate to be this way. It's the typical skeptic crossing the cynical line type of thing. But as the saying goes…it is what it is. Rex is going to create "events" for both camera time and for some "commercial-leading excitement (something happens just before the commercial break)."
I find Rex's antics tedious and obvious. His credibility is completely shot. In a way, it's becoming boring. But what I do find interesting are the dynamics behind this. I can't believe that Josh is buying into Rex's schtick. So either he sees the commercial value in what Rex does and is going with it or…it's been agreed by show management (whoever and whatever that entails) to "spruce up" the show and develop a more "give them what they want" type of mentality and Gates, once again, is going with it.
Watching the review with Josh, Kris, and Barry was just painful. You have three people with vested interests reviewing something false because their jobs depend upon it and they make money from positive results.
Stick a fork in DT because it's done. This, for me, was the final straw. They have now sunk to the depths of the rest of them. Josh Gates may be the most personable host of a paranormal show and the show itself may be entertaining, that's fine. But after this last Rex episode, don't ask me to evaluate their evidence. Their trustworthiness has been utterly destroyed. Seriously discussing their "evidence" at this point would be like seriously discussing "Most Haunted."
One last thing, since Rex is in the spotlight now…remember when Ryder ate same gravel on the dirt bike and had to be stitched up? What was up with Rex and his plastic facial splash guard? Are you kidding me? She has a couple of cuts on her elbow and he's dressed for the scene in "Alien" when the little alien bursts out of that guy's chest. A plasitc facial splash guard? *sighs* Why doesn't he just walking around with an iPod and speakers just blaring "Look at me! Pay attention to me! I'm important! Look at me!"
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12:34 pm April 6, 2011
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Revenant said:
And really, I hate to be this way. It's the typical skeptic crossing the cynical line type of thing.
I can't believe that Josh is buying into Rex's schtick.
Stick a fork in DT because it's done. This, for me, was the final straw. They have now sunk to the depths of the rest of them.
Crossing to cynical…very true…I was very cognizant of that as I was watching last night and I still just didn't buy it. Past actions both of Rex and on the show in general have to come into play and when you look at things as a whole, I couldn't accept it. Especially when you suspect something like that is going to happen. And look at his expressions just before he goes gag.
Josh buying the schtick…this is so very similar to Evan it's not even funny except in a sad way. Haunted Forest, and then Easter Island. Josh seemed to (at least on camera) buy it in Romania. The same thing on Easter Island Josh just dismissed as Evan going !#$%$^ crazy. Soon after, Evan was no longer on the show. I wonder if this will be the fate of Rex.
The fork. Agree again. The straw was getting pretty heavy last week and this week sealed it with all the made up stuff in Namibia. "Something just entered basecamp" Not according to their map. They set up the perimeter before Jael shows up and they do it with THREE line of sight devices. First of all, it would have taken over a day to set up the perimeter assuming different people hike off to each apex of the triangle. And line of sight 5 feet off the ground is not going to work over a distance of 70 miles for two reasons. One is the amount of vegetation in the way and two, the earth curves.
Look how many animals were around, with a perimeter that size, that alarm would have been going off every 4 seconds.
Now, I suppose their diagram could have been off by a factor of about
1000 but then what does this say to the accuracy of anything else?
Where did they have the boats stored when they were driving? They did not get them from the Himba village.
Then add Rex and the fork goes right through it. Really a pity, too, because this show had potential.
And you know what REALLY scares me? The way they worked Jael into the story…they said she was filming an FoF episode. This means a Season 3!
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2:45 pm April 6, 2011
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Not only a Season 3, but an INTERNATIONAL Season 3. Me thinks Daphne will be a "special guest" in an episode or two as well.
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5:36 pm April 6, 2011
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I have to agree with everyone on here when it comes to Jael driving up at nite in the middle of nowhere Africa by herself.(yeah right) that was a bit much Mr.Gates.
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7:49 pm April 6, 2011
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I wish Josh would do a "Bourdain" and just jump ship…..
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10:32 am April 7, 2011
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I found this episode to be particularly boring.
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and I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
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10:50 am April 7, 2011
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Axel Olrik said:
I wish Josh would do a "Bourdain" and just jump ship…..
I wish I got the Nat Geo channel.
( http://www.skepticalviewer.com…..ion-truth/ )
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4:17 pm April 7, 2011
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Revenant said:
I find Rex's antics tedious and obvious. His credibility is completely shot. In a way, it's becoming boring. But what I do find interesting are the dynamics behind this. I can't believe that Josh is buying into Rex's schtick. So either he sees the commercial value in what Rex does and is going with it or…it's been agreed by show management (whoever and whatever that entails) to "spruce up" the show and develop a more "give them what they want" type of mentality and Gates, once again, is going with it.
I don't think Gates is buying into anything at all. He has made numerous not so subtle references in the past that he is well aware the show is complete bull****, but was very grateful to receive a paycheck and fly around the world at SyFy's expense. So yeah, I would expect him to play certain things up.
I see DT as more of a self aware paranormal show.
As far as Rex goes I think it was more of a stomach illness that he/the show tried to spin as a paranormal encounter. He jumped up to go check "around the corner" very fast. My guess is that he felt like he was about to throw up, and like most of us would do, tried to quickly move away from anyone in close proximity to him. To me, at least, when he is first "attacked" it sounds like he is just throwing up. If I remember correctly, doesn't he even bend his head down and away from his body? Like he was trying to avoid throwing up on his clothes?
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6:36 pm April 7, 2011
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TheBlackLyon said:
As far as Rex goes I think it was more of a stomach illness that he/the show tried to spin as a paranormal encounter. He jumped up to go check "around the corner" very fast.
That was Chris (as opposed to Rex) who got up rather slowly, taking 4 seconds of onscreen time to get to a barely raised crouch plus an additional few extra seconds off camera to get to a fully upright position.
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2:23 am April 8, 2011
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TheBlackLyon said:
I don't think Gates is buying into anything at all. He has made numerous not so subtle references in the past that he is well aware the show is complete bull****, but was very grateful to receive a paycheck and fly around the world at SyFy's expense. So yeah, I would expect him to play certain things up.
I wasn't aware of this. Can you please link the written interviews or link the video interviews in which he makes these numerous not so subtle references that he is well aware the show is complete bull***?
Or are you referring to the actual show? If that is the case, can you please specify which episode and what he said exactly? I've seen every episode and I don't remember anything like that. Maybe something got past me.
Thanks…
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