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S04E05: Siberian Snowman

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9:12 am
October 7, 2010


Nosfer

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Last night we had GH do a full episode at one place…even though the results were, well, what can I say! Tonight, in keeping with that, DT will spend an entire hour (17 minutes after commercials and immersing themselves in local customs and trying to get their vehicle unstuck) in search of the Siberian Snowman.

So, as I promised, they are back to the Eastern part of the world. I've given up trying to predict if any of the evidence will be taken to Jason and Grant so I'll just say there is a 50/50 chance. Maybe I should back down on that a bit. One of their more sensational episodes involved this creature in the form of the Yeti. That investigation triggered another investigation which resulted in an hour-long season finale last year. Maybe DT considers the Yeti and it's variations to be "theirs" and will keep it within the DT circle. Man I hope so! Not to say we won't get to see more thermal hits, though.

That could be good or bad, all depends on how they play them out. I don't have any problem with the thermal footage itself, I don't think any of it's faked, they do catch "something" with the instrument…my problem comes with the interpretation of said thermal hits.

Not much really to say since I think most people here are familiar with Yeti, the Yeren, Bigfoot, the Chuchunaa, and austalopithecus biggus.

At least we get to see some countryside and some Russian transports. Oh, and some more falling down…afterall, we need SOMETHING to set us up for commercial breaks and heaven forbid they use something legit!

For further background reading prior to watching tonight's episode:

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/sibero-yeti09/
http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/siberia-ftprt/
http://books.google.com/books?id=z9gMsCUtCZUC&lpg=PP1&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.unknownexplorers.com/chuchunaa.php

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3:06 pm
October 7, 2010


Leslie

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 "austalopithecus biggus"   -  really, Nosfer?

3:47 pm
October 7, 2010


Nosfer

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Leslie said:

 "austalopithecus biggus"   -  really, Nosfer?


LOL, What?  You're not  buying that one????

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5:49 pm
October 7, 2010


blinddog

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Hmmm, have to dust off the RCS Crypto Catalog and Bartenders Guide on that one Nos.

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6:01 pm
October 7, 2010


Nosfer

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I hope you've still got yours BD, I haven't been able to find my copy since the explosion!

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1:03 am
October 8, 2010


Revenant

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The explosion?  Well, you know the sixth rule of the RCS…"if it ain't explodin', you ain't tryin'…"

As for the show…I thought the use of the term "wild wolves" was pretty funny.  Is there another option that wolves can be in Siberia other than wild?  Maybe the wolves in Canada are nicer…then again, they could have been nicer because of his hat… Undecided

And although they didn't find much, I was just glad that they had stepped away from ghosts.  The show is so much better when they're out in the dark being hunted by lions and "wild wolves."  But I guess I shouldn't get too excited because it looks like they're diving right back into the ghost thing again next week.  *sighs*

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6:55 am
October 8, 2010


Nosfer

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I rather enjoyed last night's show. They were "in their element" I just wish they'd stay there instead of hitting us with ghosts again next week. I think they've over-used the fall down the hill scene as a lead in for commercials, though. I think last night was at least the 5th and 6th times we've seen that. Like the vehicle woes, it's almost becoming a trademark for them.

Hey, and anytime you can use an APC in an investigation, that's alright in my book…beats the heck out of emus and unicycles!

What I still like about the traditional investigations (not the ghost ones) that they do is that they may sometimes leave things unexplained at the end (often in fact) but they don't declare a place "definitely cryptided" GH hears footsteps and the place is haunted. DT actually sees some interesting footPRINTS and still leaves it only as a possibility.

If DT can stick with their roots of going after creatures like this, and stay away from the ghost angle, I think there is still some hope for the show.

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7:02 am
October 8, 2010


Patrick

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Well, I gave them one more chance, and like most of you, I enjoyed last night's show too.  That is what DT is all about.

Now, the footprints.  I can't believe no one mentioned the possibility of some melting or other degradation in the footprints.  I cannot believe that there was a bipedal animal with size 15 feet that was heavy enough to leave an imprint not just in the snow but that removed the snow all the way to the ground below.  I don't buy it, and it was disappointing that their zoo expert didn't mention it. 

9:14 am
October 8, 2010


Nosfer

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Did I miss something or was there no test results revealed about the urine sample?

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1:04 am
October 9, 2010


Revenant

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Patrick said: "Now, the footprints.  I can't believe no one mentioned the possibility of some melting or other degradation in the footprints.  I cannot believe that there was a bipedal animal with size 15 feet that was heavy enough to leave an imprint not just in the snow but that removed the snow all the way to the ground below.  I don't buy it, and it was disappointing that their zoo expert didn't mention it."

It's a good point that you've brought up and I have a couple of thoughts on it.  First, I'm going to go ahead and give the ex-zoo curator a pass.  I'm thinking that he probably did put out the disclaimer and it was just edited for time.  He seems like a pretty bright guy…I want to believe that he considered this.

The other thought…and just throwing it out there…there are some very large people walking around.  People who are very tall, very heavy, and have large feet.  Look to the NBA for examples.  I'm not saying that the prints that they found were a hoax.  I'm just saying that I don't want to necessarily rule out the tracks being human tracks and then having the snow melt around the edges to give them a weird look.

The reason that I brought that up is the "shock" that always seems to follow people finding large tracks.  "There are out in the middle of nowhere."  It's an odd statement.  How does one know that the tracks that they have just found isn't a trail that a person takes from point A to point B for whatever reason?  Just because it seems "out in the middle of nowhere" to you, it certainly doesn't mean that that is the case.

Nosfer asked: "Did I miss something or was there no test results revealed about the urine sample?"

No test results.  I found that odd as well.  If it came up as a normal animal, I'm thinking that they would have said something.  Maybe inconclusive?  Or…if it came up "human"…they may have found that a bit unsavory to end the show with…

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10:07 am
October 9, 2010


Nosfer

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I would entertain the notion of some crude "locally made" snowshoes, too…

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3:17 pm
October 9, 2010


Nosfer

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Oh, one more thing, if it had been me… Just out of curiosity I might have considered sending an expedition to follow or back track the prints to their origin or destination.

At the very least maybe they could have picked up a few clues along the way.

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11:14 pm
October 9, 2010


Revenant

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I absolutely agree with the snowshoes.  I literally shouted that out while watching the show.  Maybe a hoax, maybe not…but like I said in my previous post, I just don't want to rule out the tracks being made by a human.

As for following the tracks…we never really see that do we?  I'm just going to assume that is because the trail goes cold after a certain distance.  If it's just a lack of effort or based upon inconvenience, then yeah…that would look awfully suspicious.  And with these shows, it's just hard to tell anymore…

"Skepticism is not a position, it's a process." -Dr Michael Shermer

10:12 pm
October 13, 2010


Ghaleon

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I'm late getting in on a reply here, but thanks to the DVR I got a chance to catch this episode. I am glad to see DT back to its roots with a good old fashioned Crypto hunt! Anyone else notice that on their second night there, when it shows Josh and his team for the night, the camera keeps showing them in a wide span and you can see a long line of tracks going up into the woods that looks like a group had already been through there. This was when they first started on this night and had not mentioned following any prints at this point in the night, but you clearly see them walking in these already made indentions for quite some time. As for the urine sample, I was very puzzled also when there was no mention of the results at the end (that could be this seasons buried alien corpse.lol).

As for the tracks, I have a feeling that the crew has walked upon someones hunting path and they are following their snow shoes.

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