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3:41 pm October 3, 2008
| kingofseattle
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Did anyone get a chance to watch this episode last night? if not, here's the youtube link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO-XLB1nd1A
I have to say that i love the show more and more once i took it at face value. Very entertaining.
I noticed that the youtube comments were all focused on Ryder and her per episode "Freak outs" which are rather annoying. This episode is no different. WHY ARE YOU OUT INVESTIGATING????!!!!
It seems to me that she's sort of the "GH – Brian" of DT. I'm not clear what her role is once the team is out in the field. (unless it is indeed to create drama)
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9:08 am October 4, 2008
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I think this was one of the best episodes yet — the figure that emerged from the woods in the Japanese forest is far more convincing than anything we've ever seen on GH or GHI.
Ryder is there for the drama, eye candy factor that helps ratings. I don't mind her because the show continues to be infinitely more credible and entertaining than any other show of the genre that's currently on TV.
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10:45 am October 4, 2008
| Oubliette
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Wes said:
I think this was one of the best episodes yet — the figure that emerged from the woods in the Japanese forest is far more convincing than anything we've ever seen on GH or GHI.
Ryder is there for the drama, eye candy factor that helps ratings. I don't mind her because the show continues to be infinitely more credible and entertaining than any other show of the genre that's currently on TV.
I agree with you 100%. I don't mind Ryder; I think her scary moments are funny and actually represent how a lot of people would react given some of the situations. She adds to the show, even with her "Dude, Run" moments.
About the Haunted Woods-I was seriously spooked. I have no doubt in my mind that there were sightings of "yurei"-the spirits of those who took their lives and died way before their time.
I found a blog (didn't bookmark it so can't seem to find it again) where a person who works for the forestry division there indicated that the sightings of these poor souls is very common. And another point I didn't know until after Destination Truth aired–when attempting to contact someone there a wind will often come out of nowhere as the spirit is contacted. Remember the sudden wind that came up with the team started to ask questions in the spot of a possible suicide?
What they found fits in with everything that has been claimed about the area. An excerpt from a "Seek Japan" website:
"Aokigahara is considered the most haunted location in all of Japan, a
purgatory for yurei, the unsettled ghosts of Japan who have been torn
unnaturally soon from their lives and who howl their suffering on the
winds. Spiritualists say that the trees themselves are filled with a
malevolent energy, accumulated from centuries of suicides. They don't
want you to go back out."
I have seen Josh frustrated, anxious (like when he was lost on that Icelandic lake) etc., but I never saw the look of shock on his face that I did in this episode when he said he stumbled upon a figure on the path which then disappeared. The man was truly shaken up, which says a lot about what Josh saw.
Also the figure caught on video at home base was definitely a human form. I thought at first it may have been a student but it just crumbleg away like no living human could.
This episode ranks as my #1 of Destination Truth. I look forward every week to this show. And since they have been sojourning more into hauntings, they outshine GH tremendously. The abandoned temple episode also did more to highlight their investigative skills and attitudes in a way that leaves GH far behind.
What a sad, forboding and eerie place Aokigahara Forest is. Even as a very skeptical person, I cannot deny that there are some forms of consciousness left over from all the depression of those who took their own lives. After doing more research after the show, I am convinced that something very sad wanders those beautiful but forbidding paths.
Josh is well on his way to finding proof that will eventually break the fields of cryptozoology and the paranormal wide open.
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If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
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5:16 pm November 2, 2008
| Wallydraigle
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I didn't see this when it was on TV, but I watched it on Youtube, and I can't see anything at all where they have circled. I even made screenshots, blew it up, lightened it, and there just wasn't anything there to see. Not that there were shadows and it just looked like something, there was just nothing.
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5:39 pm November 2, 2008
| Wallydraigle
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This is what I mean. I blew it up 400% and lightened it considerably. Was there actually something there when they showed it on TV and it just got lost in the transition to Youtube? Or am I just not believing hard enough?
 
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9:03 pm November 2, 2008
| CreatureFeature
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The forest episode was the first and so far only DT ep I have watched. It creeped me out pretty good! If I get the chace, I hope to watch it again. I have an interest in China and Japan so I tuned in for this episode.
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7:46 am November 3, 2008
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You could see it quite clearly on TV – the YouTube video just doesn't have the needed definition to see it.
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2:55 pm November 3, 2008
| Wallydraigle
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Wes said:
You could see it quite clearly on TV – the YouTube video just doesn't have the needed definition to see it.
Gotcha.
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7:09 pm November 3, 2008
| Oubliette
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I'm looking at the image in the post above on my 22" LCD monitor and I can actually make out an upright shape there. It's faint, but it's there. Creepy.
When Josh brings back videos to the US they put it through their software to clean it up as much as possible.
I think that Japanese forest is enough to make a believer out of anyone who spends some time there. It was eerie how their experiences matched up with posts I've found throughout the internet, some from people (including Japanese) who have been there.
Josh and team are much more skeptical and slow to call anything real. In an interview last year (before he went to Japan), Josh said he's pretty convinced that the Yeti and the Oran Pendek are real. National Geographic has been supporting a team of scientists for the last year in Indonesia and they believe they have seen this unknown primate
What's cool is that even when they don't find anything, it's fun to go along with the DT crew and see all the weird, out of the way places and how they sometimes have to make do with boats, cars etc. that are hardly trustworthy. And then there's the food….
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If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
Anatole France
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8:35 pm November 8, 2008
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I love this DT, it is my favorite show on the paranormal topic. What I like is the amount of time they put into the effect of legend and myth, which makes sense because most of the time they find very little . That said the Haunted Forest was one of the best episodes that I have ever seen in terms of sheer creepiness. All of the ghost and paranormal shows seem to fall flat on conveying the creepiness to a viewwr. I am not a believer, but I felt unnerved. The find of the photo's and destroyed site, the slim bunches of trees, and the actual history (not a convuluted series of myths/lies/legend/paranormal bossting) was frightening. I look forward to all of the comments from Josh, and I can deal with the shortcomings of the rest of the group. My only wish is that they would lose the "Scariest places in America" nightvision headgear cameras.
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11:47 pm November 8, 2008
| Oubliette
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Alan, it is a pleasure to read your post about DT and esp. the Haunted Forest. I have never been so creeped out while watching a paranormal investigation. It is no joke, I was getting chills down my spine the entire time and was sitting on the edge of the couch. The look on Josh's face was genuine when he came face to face with an apparition, and was the first time I saw true surprise and perhaps a tinge of fear.
You're right, everything about it was weird. And when I did research on the Forest after the show, it was amazing how what they experienced matched up with people who have been there, including the locals. Something is going on in the sorrowful place.
Destination Truth has become my favorite show. It really makes me feel like I am right there with Josh and team, having all sorts of funny and sometimes scary experiences. Also a big plus is that even if they don't find anything, the viewer is not disappointed. We get to see such out of the way places, meet some very unique people (and yucky food) and realize there are a lot of places on this planet that are far from our technologically advanced neck of the woods. It also illustrates the trials and tribulations such as lousy vehicles, unreliable boats, and dangerous bridges. So the viewer is always entertained.
And then there is Josh's wonderful sense of humor. What a guy! Indiana Jones in the flesh.
Equally important is that they have others scrutinize their evidence, unlike GH, which keeps things to themselves. Josh really wants to find the truth.
I actually feel a letdown when the show is not on the air. It is the one I truly look forward to every week.
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If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
Anatole France
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9:16 am November 9, 2008
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Oubliette- Thank you. From what I have scanned on this site, I like the mix of enthusiasm and skepticism. It's not easy having an interest on this subject and being a hard skeptic- this is one of those areas that you are either in one camp or the other.
I agree that even when they do not find anything, I still love the show. It takes the time to show the people living there, the customs, the odd cultural differences, and Josh Gates…he is the best host around. I never did any follow up research on the forest, but I will now.
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2:17 pm February 3, 2009
| Revenant
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Like many posting in this thread, I also like DT a great deal. It's a nice blend of humor, information, and fun. Now for a few points:
Ryder- Sure, at times, I believe that she's a bit annoying on film. Do I really blame her? Absolutely not. Why? I'm a fairly big guy with martial arts training from the South side of Chicago. Put me in a jungle half way around the world in total darkness and we're picking up heat signatures of what could be a tiger…yeah, I'd be annoying on film too. Actually, I know she's braver than me because I just wouldn't do it. So I cut her and the rest of the team infinitely more slack then GH or GHI. There's a huge difference between a house that is "spooky" and a jungle where there are a host of things that at best, can do you bodily harm and at worst…kill you.
Aokigahara- A very interesting place. There was a very real sadness when I heard the background story. I am not one who is "creeped out" very easily, but I think even I would be…"extremely alert"…in that place.
The Ghostly Image- DT does a decent job in analyzing their footage and evidence. Or at least they give it a good try. What they didn't address, for me at least, is more physical attributes of the actual location. Is there water near by? If so, a pond, a lake, a river? Are there are mountains or large hills near by? From the long views that we got from the show, it seemed this area contained both. Is there any volcanic activity in the area? What I'm getting at is possible patches of fog/mist. Anyone who has camped out in the woods near both water and mountains can to attest to a little mist or fog forming very late at night/early morning. If there is volcanic activity, there may be escaped gas. Lights reflecting off of gas or mist can do tricky things.
I'm not saying this was the case. I would just like to cross off as many rational possiblities as possible.
The Show Itself- Like Oubliette, I also look forward to watching the show as it's my favorite of all the shows. It's a shame Sci-Fi doesn't run more re-run's.
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8:00 am February 4, 2009
| Oubliette
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Hi, glad to know of another DT fan. I've been out of the loop lately fighting some weird, unidentified crypto-virus that has kept me away from my PC.
The Suicide Forest episode was by far one of the creepiest I have ever seen–and that includes other similar TV shows as well. I can still remember the chills it gave me, and the look of astonishment on Josh's face that I had never seen before when he encountered "something" on the path, which then disappeared.
My research on the forest has me believing that weird experiences are occurring there. If you haven't already, I suggest doing a Google search. It provides some very interesting accounts of this mysterious place.
Erin Ryder is a producer in her own right and also occasionally dabbles in casting, etc. She's done extensive behind the scenes work in Hollywood. Since actually partaking in the arduous expeditions is not her forte, I think she does a bang up job. Most women I know wouldn't even think of going to the depths of a jungle, but she has the guts to give it a go. Good point about realizing that a carnivore might just be behind that heat signature, ready to pounce!
BTW, I have a bit of an "insider" connection via another fan of the show who has a contact in the production end of it. It seems that new episodes have been ordered. The biggest stumbling block for DT is that, unlike, say, GH (and I am in no way saying that DT and GH are in the same category!), DT involves much more work in producing episodes due to the extensive travel involved. In addition, some of the exotic locales require quite a bit of the respective country's government giving clearance for filming. So in the case of DT, an OK for additional episodes must first be obtained and then they will begin filming more. All of which translates into longer time between seasons.
I will keep those interested posted on any news regarding the progression of a new season, unless SciFi beats me to it.
To be honest, given the direction SciFi has been going, I would rather see DT on either NatGeo or the Travel Channel. The show is very well suited to both, and would get away from the stigma that has attached itself to GH and other SciFi productions. Just my personal opinion.
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If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
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9:36 am February 4, 2009
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Oubliette said:
To be honest, given the direction SciFi has been going, I would rather see DT on either NatGeo or the Travel Channel. The show is very well suited to both, and would get away from the stigma that has attached itself to GH and other SciFi productions. Just my personal opinion.
I would definitely second that. Would give it even more credibility. As far as I'm concerned, it's the most credible of the ones on Sci-Fi, though I don't really see it upping and moving to another network.
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11:01 am February 4, 2009
| Oubliette
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Nosfer said:
Oubliette said:
To be honest, given the direction SciFi has been going, I would rather see DT on either NatGeo or the Travel Channel. The show is very well suited to both, and would get away from the stigma that has attached itself to GH and other SciFi productions. Just my personal opinion.
I would definitely second that. Would give it even more credibility. As far as I'm concerned, it's the most credible of the ones on Sci-Fi, though I don't really see it upping and moving to another network.
Yes, and I'm sure there would be all sorts of legal stuff that would have to be worked out. I would prefer someone else to pick it up rather then see it disappear into SciFi's bottomless pit of questionable shows.
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If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
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8:57 pm July 18, 2009
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Oubliette, I enjoyed reading your posts. I love DT and Josh and his humor. I think the show is so much better than GH.
I watched this episode just recently on Scifi's site. That is why I am just writing. This episode in particular really creeped me out. I think I watched it about four times. I would like to add one thing though. When they caught the shadowy figure on camera that rose up and then just collapsed, I wish they would have stuck around till morning to look at the area they saw it in. Was there a steep hill there? Maybe it was an actual person who just came up a hill then seeing the camp of the DT people got scared themselves and then turned back around and descended the hill quickly (thus giving the appearance in the darkness that it was collapsing) But I guess we will never know.
Anyhow I think Josh was genuinely scared and sincere when he thought he saw someone sitting by the tree. And the history of the place was so sad and creepy, it was worth watching just to hear about and see the place.
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9:15 am December 3, 2010
| formerbeliever
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Even though I agree that this was one of the creepiest episodes and a really really sad story, I think the misty figure they captured is inconclusive and could have been a natural phenomena.
Does anyone have any comments about the Romanian forest. That was really interesting how that dude was apparently carried away from the middle of the circle by something. It could have just been a really strong gust of wind, but is it common for strong winds like that to come out of nowhere?
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9:51 am December 3, 2010
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formerbeliever said:
Does anyone have any comments about the Romanian forest. That was really interesting how that dude was apparently carried away from the middle of the circle by something. It could have just been a really strong gust of wind, but is it common for strong winds like that to come out of nowhere?
http://www.skepticalviewer.com…..t-romania/
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