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2:16 pm
October 16, 2009


BrendaLee

Thousand Oaks, CA

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@Drache Frau

I've always heard that pigs and wild boars are very intelligent animals.  I thought the description of the Chullachaqui matched the image of a wild boar quite nicely. (Minus the whole bipedal bit)

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1:45 pm
October 19, 2009


Drache Frau

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Maybe the pigs do it to freak out superstitious locals. Tongue out  Yes, I've heard that they're intelligent too, but I've also heard that they don't like to be around people, and avoid them as much as they can, so why would they keep pace with strange loud people walking through the woods with lights? Or, I could be thinking entirely wrong and the wild boars are more curious than I've heard. After all, I'm sure they've never seen people like that before.
What about the whistling sound? What sounds like that?

Ghost, n. The outward and visible sign of an inward fear.

2:24 pm
October 19, 2009


alicat

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posts 1215

Drache Frau,

Loved your comment  "I'm sure they've never seen people like that before."   That just leads to so many thoughts and ways to go but I won't. Wink

As far as whistling, we have to remember that being in such a location with the surroundings and canopy of the area, whistling could come from any number of different animals including birds.  They are still documenting species of birds and recording their sounds even today in South America and beyond.

6:20 am
October 23, 2009


Drache Frau

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Actually, when I first heard it I immediately thought that a bird was the culprit. I do wish that they would have other scientists and experts on the show. I think that they should have someone who's learned with the areas wildlife and/or cultures, who is also slightly skeptical. And that they should take more time to go over the evidence with different people. Then they could stop doing double investigations and it would save the show some money on plane tickets.

Ghost, n. The outward and visible sign of an inward fear.

7:10 am
October 23, 2009


alicat

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posts 1215

Drache Frau said:

Actually, when I first heard it I immediately thought that a bird was the culprit. I do wish that they would have other scientists and experts on the show. I think that they should have someone who's learned with the areas wildlife and/or cultures, who is also slightly skeptical. And that they should take more time to go over the evidence with different people. Then they could stop doing double investigations and it would save the show some money on plane tickets.


Understood.  The only problem with the areas of South America they are going to is that there are not a lot of experts in the field of birds and those available are still researching and looking for funding to further their studies.  Bird studies are so underfunded.  I mentioned elsewhere that the son of a good friend of mine relocated and has pioneered this field in Bolivia and is a noted conservationst and speaker who has lived among numerous tribes in South America.  So, while it is good they use some wildlife experts that have knowledge, especially that of the past, most of them have moved on from their jobs or have not lived life in these areas to know the nuances.  It is the newer members and experts in their respective fields that have been working with advanced techniques and are actually living in the environment and capturing information that you need to have access to for interpretation.

That being said, the recent DT episode of the thunderbird in Alaska has a rather simple explanation and it is not what the "eyewitness" would have liked everyone to have believed.  Here's a link to the Steller's sea eagle which is approximately twice the size of the eagles in Alaska.  It is believed that some of these birds have migrated to Alaska.  But, that's a story for a different thread and can be discussed there.

Trust me, they are not going back and forth to the same location.  All the location shots/investigations are being done at the same time and just edited to fit one broadcast.  They are not running back and forth constantly from LA.

8:39 am
October 23, 2009


Drache Frau

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posts 74

I would still like more time for them to examine their evidence. That is understandable though, about the experts being underfunded, however, couldn't being on a show, any show, bring more attention to what they're doing? And perhaps the show itself could pay them to appear? Also, they promote Orbitz, they could promote the actual scientists. I just wish that they spent more time on one place. They could investigate some during the day, so that they have light and can really see everything around them. That would probably be bad for ratings though.

Ghost, n. The outward and visible sign of an inward fear.

8:46 am
October 23, 2009


Nosfer

Rotaredom

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I agree, at times I feel like I'm watching a "clip show" They could _easily_ do one 1-hour time slot for each episode. I figure once you take out "the commercials", "try the local cuisine", "look at the sites", "complain about the transportation", "tackle Jael in the snow", "plug Orbitz" etc you're left with about 8 minutes of "go go go go" and "back back back back" and "Josh to base camp"

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8:48 am
October 23, 2009


Drache Frau

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posts 74

The show just started and they've already followed GH by starting a routine that never changes.

Ghost, n. The outward and visible sign of an inward fear.

9:24 am
October 23, 2009


alicat

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posts 1215

Drache Frau,

No, I don't think they would give them a second thought for even a minute.  These are serious people and in an environment that could care less about a U.S. television show much less "reality" shows like DT or GH or even GHI who are looking for hype to explore ghosts, myths and legends.  These people travel in a world that recognizes their serious research and accomplishments and are not worried about getting a nod from DT or others.  The general public is not the sector they are looking to draw from and they could care less about U.S. tv face time.  In fact, if these programs were actually doing serious investigations and not just "reality tv" trying to discover the stories behind those myths and legends, they would be able to reach out to anyone in a serious research community.

I do agree it would be better to see more of their examination but really, when you look at it, there is not much "evidence" to examine when it comes down to it.  You are seeing the highlights and what they want you to see.  I seriously doubt there is more.  It looks to me that the amount of time you see them examining evidence is proportionate to what you see them collect which, sadly, is not much.

11:02 am
October 23, 2009


The Doctor

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posts 488

Nosfer said:

I agree, at times I feel like I'm watching a "clip show" They could _easily_ do one 1-hour time slot for each episode. I figure once you take out "the commercials", "try the local cuisine", "look at the sites", "complain about the transportation", "tackle Jael in the snow", "plug Orbitz" etc you're left with about 8 minutes of "go go go go" and "back back back back" and "Josh to base camp"


I don't mind the local flavor shots at all, it gets the viewer a bit deeper into the atmosphere of the area they are going.  Jungles basically look like jungles, caves like caves,  and rocks like rocks so it allows the episodes to be different from each other. 

I think they seriously need to consider at least a second day/night in each area. If they spend 6 days getting there and back I'm sure the budget could go for another 24 hours of camping out.

12:09 pm
October 23, 2009


Nosfer

Rotaredom

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I don't mind flavor, either, but not so much when you consider the percentage of time. The amount they spend would be fine for a 1 hour show. Not for a half hour show (especially when you consider commercials and preface) I'm watching for the investigation and if I truly want flavor, well, there's the Travel Channel.

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12:22 pm
October 23, 2009


The Doctor

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posts 488

Nosfer said:

I don't mind flavor, either, but not so much when you consider the percentage of time.


I agree. the peru haunted city case seemed like they rushed through the actual investigation shots. I wish he would have taken the time to set the FLIR so we could get some temperature readings from the hit.  Could have given us 10 seconds more of real investigation time, even if we were not able to come up with any conclusions.

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