April 23, 2010

GH: Orleans Inn

The Orleans Inn located in Cape Cod dates back to the late 19th century. Originally a family home, the building was later turned into a bar and restaurant and became a favorite haunt of the Irish mob during prohibition in the early 20th century. As is often the case, the reports of strange activity seem to have begun (or at least picked up) during renovations to the property in 1996. Reports include objects moving right in front of people's eyes, like doors closing and glasses sliding off tables. Some apparitions have been reported as well, possibly in connection to a suicide on the property.

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April 25, 2010

Buffy @ 5:45 pm

We have to give GH kudos for once. As they were traveling to Orleans Inn, they actually had Kris and Grant on the walkies and neither of them were driving!

To the Investigation: When Kris and Amy were in the room with the flashlight, I am not sure why they didn't test the vibrations to see if that would cause the flashlight to mysteriously turn on when they were asking questions, especially if they were making it "easier" for the spirit to turn it on. I didn't hear what footsteps they claimed they heard either.

Grant and Jason seeing the shadow figure behind their camera man really annoyed me b/c you would think that they would immediately start filming behind him the moment it happened, yet again they don't do anything until it is "too late" and all we have is their word that something happened, but at least the camera man said something as well.

April 26, 2010

The Doctor @ 7:42 pm

Jason's hand on the FLIR was reading 118 ?

Once again J&G hear what seemed to be a scream and immediately suspect that it might have been created by one of their professional co-investigators.

Grant sees a shadow behind the cameraman, but explains that the IR camera he had pointed in that direction "was too strong to pick it up" ???? What use are the IR cameras then if they washout evidence ?
The cameraman says he turns because he heard a bang, yet no one else heard anything, nor was it picked up on any recording.

According to other websites ( which I assume Kris would have researched before they went hunting ), the female ghost was NAMED "Hannah" by the owners of the Inn.
If Kris and Amy think they contacted that spirit via the magic flashlight, a logical line of questions would have been to try and find out what her real name was.

But the most interesting tidbit was Steve assigning the "security systems tapes" to Britt during the analysis.
… The Inn has security cameras that they reviewed ? Why are there no tapes then of any of these reported occurances ?

April 28, 2010

HollyDolly @ 9:09 am

That's what drives me nuts about these guys.They see a shadowy human figure behind the camera man, and they do nothing.The minute they saw it, they should have started filming.Your right Doctor, what good are the IR cameras at all? Think Grant's talking through his hat. The flashlight trick is getting old, and they should have asked Hannah what her real name was. If they could have gotten a name, then they could have done some research to see if she actually had lived at the location once.If the Inn has security cameras, they should have recorded something,just like several years ago when I think at Hampton Court in England, CCTV camera recorded a human figure in Elizabethean costume opening then closing a door. Don't know what was ever decided about the figure, whether it was an employee or not. That's like the CCTV at Belgrave Hall also in England recorded some strange figures there.So if there is activity at this inn, it should be caught on camera.Other places have caught activity some of which has even been seen on national news at times or even tv shows. By the way,did the security cameras catch anything?

jcarton @ 10:06 am

The figure at Hampton Court was proven to be a costumed employee going out for a cig when the employee confessed. It was discussed in a forum somewhere on here before. The Belgrave Hall figure caught on the security footage was also debunked by ISPR.

June 18, 2010

Nosfer @ 9:35 pm

From The Doctor: "Jason's hand on the FLIR was reading 118? "

Actually that's not too far-fetched. I don't have this one recorded so I can't check…and after Manson they stopped showing all the good stuff like settings. If they have the emissivity set somewhere in the the upper 0.3s, like maybe a 0.37, you can get a 118F reading on a human hand easily (just did it here on my own hand). Depends what they were going after, ie, the type of material that was dominant in that structure. Providing, of course, that they calibrate for environment ahead of time……. You know, in the GHA episodes I never see them going over equipment calibration, you'd think that would be an important step in the training….. (like all these ellipses? lol)

June 20, 2010

The Doctor @ 4:50 pm

OK – so if it was calibrated ( or not as the case may be ) in some weird fashion a normal human body could read 118.

Since we know Grant would not want to break the TAPS quality of "technical competence" what would be the possible ghost hunting reason for setting it so that a human does not give normal human readings ?

Nosfer @ 6:06 pm

They've never really given a concrete explanation for why they use the FLIR in the first place. The only footage I can recall from the FLIR that was interesting was the colder "moving" amorphous spot at Fort Mifflin. I don't think that one has yet been satisfactorily explained that I know of. Off the top of my head I can't think of any other FLIR evidence that was very interesting, though I may be suffering from lack of recall :)

Why not set it so a human gives a normal human reading? Would make sense if they did but I don't think it's critical. The problem with the FLIR is that depending upon the material hit, the temperature return is going to be inaccurate if not calibrated for that specific material. For example going from wood-panel to brick environment or having a mixed environment, some of the returns are going to be inaccurate.

This comes to the "why" of the thermal in the first place. If the purpose is just to pick up relative temperature differences, ie just another way to "see in the dark", then the setting and actual temperature aren't important. I'm still not sure what they expect to pick up since the particular imager they had been using is not capable of detecting vaporous matter. Would have to have a fairly dense or large particle size.

The key is knowing the material being registered. Knowing the temperature registered and the emissivity setting of the device, if they know what the material is, they should be able to back out an actual temperature from the available data.

IF it was set in the 0.3s, I don't know why, I'd certainly have it up a lot higher. But like I say, if they just use it to pick out shapes and to set up "whoaaaa dude!" scenes for the reviewers rather than for any actual data collection, it probably doesn't matter.

The problem comes from viewers who don't know the details and who make claims like the Fort Delaware figure had to be a ghost because it was too cold. A) setting of the instrument is very important and B) uh, don't expect a 98F reading through a jacket!

June 21, 2010

The Doctor @ 11:36 pm

It's surprising, but Stango gives a pretty good idea of when it could be useful in their training clip on SyFy. They provide an example of using it to identify strange noises outside as a small animal.

I can see it's use for debunking IF it's calibrated for human skin temperature, and I would be impressed if they caught, say, a moving human form with a uniform temperature lower then that of the surrounding walls and ambient air temperature.
Whatever Casper and his clothes are made of, there is no reason to believe they would be made of different non-substances (?).




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