January 27, 2010

GHI: Port Arthur Penitentiary

The Ghost Hunters International team really decided to go out of their way and ended up in Tasmania for this next investigation. The Port Arthur prison is about 200 years old and has the sort of sordid history you might expect from a prison with a little bit of history under its belt. The paranormal reports seem to include a little bit of everything, from shadows to scratches.

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January 28, 2010

Belle @ 2:22 am

This show has gotten sooo ridiculous! First, all or most of their clients do not walk around their homes or places where they supposedly see the apparitions, black masses or poltergeist activity in complete darkness. Why in heck do theTAPS team shut all the lights off in order to catch anything paranormal. Most people themselves say they see these things happen while they are moving about in a normally lit fashion.
Secondly, why doesn't the GH investigators use some type of headset with a camera so that whatever they claim that they see is immediately caught and recorded. Going by their "credibility" is just not enough to convince any logical person. Come on, listening to Jason, Grant & the TAPS team talk about their personal experiences that no else sees but them is getting so pathetic.
The show spends more time having its viewers continually watch the team set everything up and then breaking it down. They explain over & over again about EVPs, EMFs & Thermal imaging what they mean and their side affects more than they need.
Lastly, why in the heck do they only spend one silly night at most of the sights. Hauntings are usually random. What makes them think that something that other people have experienced ( because they have spent long periods of time where the spirits/ghosts reside) is going to show up for the plumbers in just few short hours!! Please give your intelligent viewers a break!

January 29, 2010

The Doctor @ 3:13 pm

Dustin says that the curtains moved just that one time, but will not even say if they suspect it was some sort of paranormal occurance.
Curious that the camera angle is slightly different then we are shown during the setup. When, by who and why was this adjusted?

Barry's supercam shot of the figure is the biggest flaw. The tree on the right is in different positions. Captureing both images, resizing one so the church is the same and overlaying them shows the church, tree on the left and patch of ground in the center lining up, but the tree on the right changes its position considerably.
Look at it's limbs reaching the church window in the shot with Casper, yet never getting near there in the recreation.

Barry changed something between shots … I call shenanigans.

January 30, 2010

Dr. Herbert West @ 6:16 am

It has come down to this for GH and GHI. I DVR the show and then watch the spokesman for whatever place they have gone to and then fast forward to the reveal.

The rest is just a boring surreal repetition of every other show. If you take out the set-up, the tear down, the same faces looking over the tapes, and the commercials, you have about 10 minutes of some differences.

If I ever miss a show, I know I'm not missing much at all.

But the crux of the whole thing is this, I don't believe a single thing they come up with or find. The Grant syndrome has ruined both shows for me. They have lost all credibility with me because I know now they are not looking for the truth. They are in it for the money only.

Lindy @ 12:50 pm

It's like watching paint dry, almost……..at least wet paint doesn't insult your intelligence.

January 31, 2010

Learjet @ 4:47 am

Yep, same old same old routine with minor variation to the theme. Was the same last week, will be the same next week with no proof of anything yet again. Snore…..

If they would just make some PROGRESS in field research rather than "well done, on to the next" mentality I might be able to stay awake for a bit longer.

Oh well, back to sleep…

June 30, 2010

Chester @ 5:11 am

I was wondering why Barry's reaction was so odd (relaxed) when he took that "so called ghost picture" by the church. Normally ones reaction would be way more like astonishment/disbelief. This made me think something with that picture was not right! They didn't even figure out what it was (a ghost ?), only try to recreate the walk, which was even more odd… Had nothing to do with what Barry captured on his camera/photo… Strange!

Nosfer @ 9:50 am

Chester said: "I was wondering why Barry's reaction was so odd (relaxed) when he took that "so called ghost picture" by the church. Normally ones reaction would be way more like astonishment/disbelief. This made me think something with that picture was not right!"

That's been my thought, not just with Barry and this particular episode but with episode after episode where there is just no reaction from the investigators, or a reaction that is akin to witnessing a piece of toast come out of a toaster. And furthermore, once having the experience you get a followup of "Cool, thanks for that, we'll leave you alone now." WHAT?????

Learjet @ 7:18 pm

Yeah there's that, and how about "if you want us to leave then give us a sign". Um… If I was a ghost hunter that would be the one question that I would never ask. I'm there to hunt wabbits, er I mean ghosts, not pack up and go home.

July 1, 2010

Revenant @ 2:51 am

Learjet said: "Yeah there's that, and how about "if you want us to leave then give us a sign". Um… If I was a ghost hunter that would be the one question that I would never ask."

I would only ask mathematical questions. Nothing hard. Simply single digit addition that would result in a double digit answer (as in "What is 5+9?"). In this manner, any EVP should, in theory, only consist of double digit numbers. I think this would cut down on outside contamination as well as poor acoustics (your own voice bouncing off the walls and getting picked up by the recorder…which I'm sure never happens…).

July 3, 2010

Stephen @ 9:55 pm

Rev, I agree with that as an investigation method, but as an English major I must object. It's bad enough having to do math in this life. If I'll have to spend my afterlife hanging around an abandoned building doing simple addition, count me out.

July 4, 2010

Nosfer @ 10:18 am

The math one also has the problem of the assumption that the ghost could control the amount of EM output to move the meter to the right number. Unless you just mean counting the number of lightups. What is 4+8? Step close, step away, repeat 11 more times.

I would like to see them using recording EMF recorders, too, if EMF is to be used as evidence. More evidence review but since that doesn't seem to be a problem, what's 3 more sets of 8-hours to review? lol If the meter were motionless (confirmed by video) overlay the audio of the math question being asked, and then see the 12 spikes on the EMF trace preceded and followed by flat-line and I would take notice, especially with repeated results.

But as Stephen says, there are some issues. One would be the assumption that the entity knows math in the first place. Child entities, uneducated entities, etc.

I would also use more "opposite" questions. Someone may have mentioned this but I would like to see a question asked, then another question asked, then the opposite of the first question asked. ie

Are you a male?
What is 8+4?
Are you a female?

You would have to then go to another question to confirm the entity is still there, too

Full video on all people in the room (would have to assume there wasn't an unmentioned off camera person, though) No, splicing between asker and meter, show both in the same shot and do not pan from one to the other.

July 9, 2010

The Doctor @ 10:10 pm

Nosfer – "But as Stephen says, there are some issues. One would be the assumption that the entity knows math in the first place. Child entities, uneducated entities, etc."

Heck, if ghosts are issued a universal language translator, I would think the powers that be could toss in a calculator.

July 11, 2010

Learjet @ 10:57 pm

Lol @ The Doctor.

Recording the EMF is good. But not with data loggers. Record the actual EMF stream with a suitable transducer onto an audio recorder as an audio stream, without compression of course. It can be later played back into spectrum analyzer software for spectral analysis. That way they can find the faulty electrical device that spiked the digital display and call in the electrician to fix it. :-P

January 14, 2011

Founder of Ghost Hunters Australia @ 7:55 am

As a professinol Ghost Hunter in Australia i would like to say i'm glad to see skeptics getting in on the action also if you are an open minded skeptic we don't waste our time doing these investigation believe it or not its totally for scientific benefits which is where we get a lot of our equipment from excluding evp which is your standard voice recorder.These Scientist believe that spirits are made up of magnetic fields (EMF)and it as a Prof Ghost Hunter and fownder of PPS Australia i will say we and Taps and GHI put all our efforts out there to catch something amazing and unexplainable.Unfortuneatly even when there are other camera angles Ghost don't like to perform the reason we do things at night well most stuff happens in the late hours of the night not knowing why exactly that is I don't know if its The witching hour 3am or a common thing .

So to all you skeptics out there why don't you try it with a professinal team make sure people are serious and then see what you think its actually a real lot of fun and when we do capture something its really amazing and there always gonna be those non believers out there which is alright we need them to

Fownder of PPS Australia

Nosfer @ 9:59 am

Fownder/Founder: Can you name some of these scientists who believe that spirits are made up of EMF? Are you saying, then, that you are not skeptical or adhere to the principles of being a skeptic?

Learjet @ 12:52 pm

An association with TAPS and GHI? Yikes!

The scientist – Paul Baron? http://nzparanormal.com/the-science-2/

His evaluation of EM fields and the K-II seem reasonable enough. One small nit pick is that he assumes (without actually testing the device it seems) the specs on the K-II enterprises site are correct when they are not as he quotes the spec of 20 kHz. The K-II's bandwidth is gappy. Mine doesn't make it past around 6kHz on the VLF side but restarts on HF and goes to about 2gHz from there. Really, it's not calibrated to any standard. It's an uncalibrated toy.

I don't see anywhere on that page where he comes straight out and says ghosts are associated with EMF, rather "It is a common but disputable belief that paranormal entities are capable of affecting the surrounding EMF especially in the extra-low to very-low frequency range (3 Hz- 30 kHz). Hence EMF meters are popular tools amongst ghost hunters and the like."

If you have any real data shows us the goods.

Revenant might be interested in debate with him since their paths cross in the field of chemistry.

Founder of Ghost Hunters Australia @ 10:24 pm

EMF'S As you can see EMF Has two specific uses one is a that Electric leaks if you have been watching TAPS AND GHI you would notice in some episodes that they use the EMF reader along power chords because if you there is high Electric leaks which is also very dangerous because it can cause you to get sick and be paranoid ie the feeling of being watched and there has been a few cases where i have been to where we rule out hauntings as well because of all the electric leaks it was just impossible to do any readings…The other one is the paranormal EMF side of things.

There are different types of EMF readers out there.There is the K2 the mel Kll Hybrid (which is my favourites)The Mel 8704 Mel kLL VIBE Hybrid.

Now the difference between them is some have Temperature which is the one i use Mel KLL Hybrid when we do a sweep around locations and its all clear from Electric leaks we as Ghost hunters start seeing if we can find a spike with the emf when if there is a fairly low spike i tend not to bother but if it gets high I as an Ghost Hunter Put my EVP down to record and start asking questions…Now when we get spike really high spike's to the questions we ask we ask another question hoping to get another response …Im not to into the yes or no questions as i would rather get more info on an EVP ,but when we do ask question's its in the hope of getting something on EVP as well as being recorded on the EMF at the same time which is what you can do with the Mel-Kll Hybrid .

Founder of Ghost Hunters Australia @ 10:38 pm

Also the real data you speak about is simply us going out there to measure these spikes and merely bring them as evidence we have scientist on the field as well there are several out there working with people coming up with amazing new equipment for us we also have two Skeptics on the team one is is open minded and one who isn't which is a parapsycologst handy to have in investigations but I will add too my last post on this site ..

No matter what tv show comes on with ghost hunting and no matter if we do have hard evidence to show people there are always going to be people out there who say its fake my advice to you is ..Go and out there and do it for your self get a team some equipment and permission from places and have fun

January 15, 2011

Learjet @ 12:04 am

Is this Brad I'm addressing?

Please, for the sake of sanity and truth, do not base your investigative techniques on what you see on a TV show! TAPS / GHI or anything to do with the Pilgrim network are less interested in truth than they are about ratings. You WILL be led astray.

Their ideas on EMF exposure are urban legends and have no basis for reality with their claims. If you don't believe me, take a look at the Australian Energex website for safe exposure levels set by The National Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC), not TAPS!

http://www.energex.com.au/network/emf/community_emf_info.html

(NHMRC) guidelines recommend the following limits of exposure*:

* Public exposure to magnetic fields 1 000 milligauss continuous or 10 000 milligauss for up to 2 hours/day
* Occupational exposure to magnetic fields 5 000 milligauss (for a working day) or 50 000 milligauss for up to 2 hours/day
* Public exposure to electric fields 5 kV/m continuous or 10 kV/m for up to 2 hours/day
* Occupational exposure to electric fields 10 kV/m for a working day or 30 kV/m for 2 hours/day

Personally I've never seen a house pump out 1000 milligauss continuous or anywhere near it in a living area to date!

As for possible paranormal EMF, that is beyond the scope of a K-II, MEL meter or any broad band EM field strength meter to be able to identify it. For need of a scientist, this is a job for a spectrum engineer with proper tools and skills to be able to read the instruments.

Hey I'm not even a skeptic. I'm just a lowly radio tech that has an interest in this field and has watched too much disinformation on TV.

Keep on investigating, but please do it properly within established guidelines, not far fetched ideas from TAPS!

LearJet
The Taps Investigations is the best way i have seen on Tv shows they need to do more the way they debunk on the thermal camera on the spot it good we do the same you have to debunk on the spot some of the evidence the captured on that is amazing and those things ain't cheap it put me out some pocket money but it is worth it .You know a show I can't stand how they investigate is MOST HAUNTED I call it Most UnHaunted there is nothing but screaming and noses the whole way through it they give Ghost Hunters a bad name dead tennats is really bad as well That's why I am glad Taps came a long something interesting to watch who takes it seriously most of the time.

You will be happy to know that we do our own investigation's on our own terms we also go to the same location several times before we close an investigation as I believe that if you want to capture the real deal you need too keep at the same place get an astonishing amount of evidence and write down all recordings we even have people on the look out for any intruders or people who are going to tamper the evidance…we have the same people on the team the entire time however we are willing for people to sign up and have a go but on our terms and condition's we are also licenced for any findings to go into the historical society for perminate recordings for the public to see .

As for how Taps works Ghost Hunters is an orgainization around America Taps is only part of it GHI is a part of taps thats why sometimes you see different investigators but i am against different investigators at once because you need to have a level of trust before you gather information I also Know Rob Demarest really well and unfortunately he has told me that after the season we are watching the show has been cancelled due to budget and he is very cut about it so fear no more there will be no more GHI MID Towards of the end of this year as for Taps they have a good reputation behind them and they will still be on Tv.




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