YAWN….guess they shot their wad with the flashlight incident at Thornbury…

Jason's family thing? He had to take a long shower and go to confession. The flashlight incident left him feeling "dirty".

Here's a link to this location which I posted in the forum last night: http://www.leefendallhouse.org

As mentioned and discussed in the "Grant is on Twitter" forum, this was the location they filmed while Jason decided to take a vacation week in RI and not in sequence at all with the Thornbury case.

Jason's Twitter: "I am taking this week off. Will miss the my Taps family for the week. At least Kriswilliams81 wont b able to threaten me harm in person.LOL 7:53 PM May 17th from Tweetie"

Grant: "Here we go again. This time with US Air. Flying solo this time, Jay is taking the week off. 5:41 AM May 18th from Tweetie
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Interesting episode. I thought the character interaction was worth mentioning:

They really need to break Steve and Tango up more often. Together, they are comedy relief at best, but I noticed a definite change in Steve when he was investigating with Grant. A lot more into what he was doing, no clowning around, etc. Grant even seemed to defer to him. I like these types of episodes because it's more like the old crew…actually debunking things (although their allusion to the fear cage could have used an update regarding its effects)

Also interesting that, with Jason gone, Grant took part in the review.

EMF levels of 0.6 – 1.4 and they "chock up the creepy feeling to high EMF". Unbelievable stupidity.

I seriously want to kidnap those jokers and lock them in my radio room. I'll give them high EMF…

Wait, I haven't finished ranting yet. I'm still seething at this scene these ignoramuses created. These morons are breading a new subculture of crazy beliefs based on some unfounded urban legend and hyping it up to make a mountain out of a mole hill. For instance a TV set puts out 20 – 100 times those EMF levels on a far wider spectral range. No one blames the TV for feeling "uneasy". I just put my MP3 player with magnetic earpieces on the Gauss Master and it went to 10mg – 10 times the levels they are talking about and the EMF from those is in close proximity to the head.

Don't these basket cases ever use an EMF meter outside of a midnight investigation to measure ordinary electronic devices that we all live and play with every day of our lives? Obviously not. They seem to live in their own little ghost hunting world making up bulldust as they go along. When daylight comes the meters are put away and off they go in blissful ignorance of what EMF actually is in the air and in close proximity all day long.

These are crazy people spreading misinformation to a very wide TV audience. It's unforgivable.

Just how is it possible that this experienced group not only has people moving about the location while others are waiting for any kind of sign from Casper, but when they finally leave they leave the door unlatched ?

The good point is that they called for information and Amy admitted to doing it …

… if that was Jay and Grant, they would have simply said they did not see anyone and reported it to the client as a ghost.

Wonderful to discover this site. I, like many, was a fan of GH for about 1 1/2 years until I realized they simply weren't learning how to use their equipment properly, also showed zero signs of really wanting to. Still watch though, obviously ;->

Re: Lee-Fendall House. I've been there while visiting my brother who lives in Alexandria. Saw those servant bells & frankly it's kind of a poor debunk GH does. No way a draft would hit them imo, you'd have to get on a chair & do what Techmangler Steve did to make them jingle even a short length of time. Unless a rat, bat, or some other critter got up there somehow, no way ( & the house seems extremely well kept up, so I'm thinking no bats in its belfry.

How about a more obvious explanation that lept immediately to mind- you've been warned repeatedly to never keep your cell phone on in one of those board meetings in the dining room, it really pisses off board chairman or whoever when it goes off. You've got it in your pocket when the "30s-40s" style ringtone goes off. Crap! You quickly turn it off, keep your mouth shut about it, & voila, phantom 30s phone ring.

Beautiful house btw, well worth the visit if you're in the area, ghosties or no.

A good point has been brought up. It is just a supposition born of no actual research that any of their claims of what EMF readings stand for bear any credibility. True, there is still debate going on as to whether or not humans are effected by high EMF emissions. But as to ghosts–it seems someone just came up with the idea and the paranormal community just took the ball and ran with it.

No more mention of ghosts not being able to lift more than 10 lbs., I see. Now where did THAT idea come from?

And these guys are going around the country giving seminars on this stuff? Unbelievable. Now pass me the jar of green olives.

I've got a little 1st hand experience with high EMFs in a small, completely enclosed area. I come from a family of nine & we live in a really old house while growing up. It had a very small service porch area into which were squeezed a washer & dryer plus the usual overhead lighting, with exposed conduit containing wiring on the ceiling. When my parents finally moved to a condo when we were grown, they needed to do a complete revamp of the old house wiring before selling because it turned out it was 80/90% cloth-sheathed. Quality wiring for the time the house was built, but cloth-sheathed, really old wiring emitting sky high EMFs (house built in 1924). Including the basement & service porch.

All those many many years every one of us spent mucho time doing laundry & folding clothes in that small service porch, which must be some kind of FEAR CAGE according to GH, & nobody was ever creeped out in the slightest, according to a family consensus of GH watchers. No feelings of dread, being watched, nausea, shadow figures, unexplained sounds, etc etc. Nothing, nada, zippo, NEVER.

It's like some ghost hunting urban legend, perhaps sometime soon fated to go the way of the 10 lb. "rule."

Thanks for the info, M. Roget. The only comment I would add is that J & G say that "some people" are sensitive to high EMFs. At least, that is probably how they would respond to your post.

The debate will continue to rage on, but nowhere in the scientific community is it mentioned that high readings are responsible for paranormal activity, concentrating rather on health issues.

I'm sure you're right about J & G's response to my info, Oubliette, even though we're talking about eleven people living in the house, plus aunties & grans living there sporadically using that laundry room (probably 16-20 people all told) over 30+ years.

But that would be their answer, regardless, because what's the alternative? Admitting you might just possibly be wrong about your handy dandy theory?

High EMFs truly are a health hazard, no doubt about that, one our ancestors were blissfully unaware of. Kind of like 2nd hand smoke.

I've still not been able to be convinced that EMF readings mean anything other than that: ELECTRO Magnetic Fields, not a friggin' ghost.
I have yet to find credible evidence that EMF = Paranormal.
It's all supposition.

When I was in High School (ten years ago, before I was ever interested in any paranormal activity), I knew a guy whose mom had some apparent EMF hyper-sensitivity disorder. She had to be very careful where she would go in reference to sources of high electromagnetic radiation. She would experience a burning sensation facing the source. In severe cases or during long exposure, she would break out in a rash, or even blisters. According to my buddy, her biggest annoyances were microwave ovens and high-tension power lines. I honestly know nothing about EMF, nor do I claim to take a stance on the paranormal debate regarding them. I only offer this information because it has absolutely intrigued me ever since.

I'm not a doctor, but some of these cases are bound to be psychosomatic disorders. Otherwise EHS would be frequently diagnosed by the medical profession, which it isn't.

Getting back for a moment to the servant bells, on re-watching the ep it's obvious that Grant was going for a full debunk, then without Jason there to ram their explanation on through, backed off to a possible/attempt at a debunk when the exec. director emphatically informed him that she'd never heard those bells ring before at any time in her tenure at Lee-Fendall.

A real attempt at debunking the 30s style phone ring might have included the ginormous "research" of talking (at least by phone) to some person or persons who were actually at that board meeting, perhaps having them hear the servant bells- might have turned into a real debunk or an admission of "my cell was on, it turned out later the good humor man was outside, etc. Too logical, too time consuming for our intrepid GH teamers who always are "on to the next one," both?

Wait, I forgot there for a sec, this was a 2nd investigation in an ep, so who in the world would bother with anything like that.

Talked with my brother Patrick this past weekend (an Alexandria resident as I stated in previous comment) & apparently the Board of Directors at Lee-Fendall was less than thrilled with the mess GH film crew made in their pristine house/museum, particularly all the tape residue. Verdict from one board member Pat knows- they liked Grant, no liked Steve, & now are sorry they called GH in due to waste of time & personnel to clean up after filming. Apparently the B o' D also thought GH tv time could help out tourist business at Lee-Fendall. Which reasoning sounds ever so slightly familiar…..

What didn't they like about Steve do you know? I imagine it that it was a pain to remove the adhesive from the tape that they had on the walls and everywhere.They have to get it off, but they don't want to ruin the paint or finish on the floor if any of the cords were taped to the floor.I assume they go t either volunteers to remove it or a professional cleaing company to do the work.

I never heard of EMFs in regards to ghosts until this show. I had heard of it, but usually in regards to health risks.Some years ago there was concern about people living near high tension power lines,and health risks they could face from high
EMFS.Learjet, when you mentioned your radio room, made me think of my sister.
She used to work for Atlantic Satellite up in New Jersey. She used to uplink and donwlink sattelite feeds,etc. so i imagine the equipment would give off high emfs, but she never mentioned any problems of feelings of dread, etc.After that she worked for Time Warner at Court Tv before being laid off last year.Again, no mention of any of the effects that GH claims.
And I think most of you are right they don't know how to use the equipment.
Wouldn't a temprature gauge and something that mentions barametic pressure be just as good a ghost indicator? I would assume they would draw on the surrounding heat or other things in order to manifest.

I'm not quite sure what about Steve rubbed some people the wrong way at Lee-Fendall, HollyDolly. It would be interesting to find out some specifics, wouldn't it. My brother & I mostly talked about tape marks & scuff marks on wood floors & walls. Tracy, the exec. director, was not impressed with the phone ring debunk, as was evident in the ep, but again, brother Pat wasn't really specific except to say that she felt the GH explanation was "too facile."

As for GH continual usage of either EM gauges or the ubiquitous K2s, over-reliance on these tools & imo misinterpreting readings of same (& much of their other equipment output) took me from interested viewer to skeptical viewer of every GH episode during the 1st two years of the show. Still watch, though, but with a very jaded eye….

Just had a thought. If they hated the tape residue, imagine if Jason had brought along the flour!

Learjet – You couldn't possibly mean that magically appearing flour could you? Where exactly has that flour been these days? Actually, where has it been all 5 seasons except in that one investigation?

In J's stomach after being made into cake I'd say.