July 15, 2009

GHI: Manor House

This investigation took place on Rathlin Island off the northern coast or Ireland near the area where Barry grew up. With only 25 minutes (minus commercial interruptions) to present the investigation, Pilgrim felt it was important we see how excited GHI was to drive onto a ferry that could transport CARS!  Yes, there might have been a few hints early on as to how this investigation was going to go.

At one point Barry & Dustin were in a room where supposedly in the 19th century a spirit was exorcised, but the exorcism was only to last for 99 years. Pardon me? How exactly does that work?  "I order you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ to leave this place and return to the hellfire from which you came, oh but if you really like it here and want to come back any time past a century is cool."

So they're in this room and Barry puts some coins on the floor and cajoles the allegedly greedy ghost to covet his coinage. He then announces he's heard the coins move, but either this wasn't recorded on audio or as Dustin claims it was actually recorded but not clearly enough to be certain the noise was actually the coins moving.

Barry then reports seeing a flicker moving across the room from them and out the door, and Dustin reports smelling a musty odor, which he then says disappated very quickly even as he was telling Barry about it. I don't know what to say about that except it's a shame no one has yet invented a smell-ometer.  All joking aside, there are a decent number of paranormal reports that involve odors and not having any way to document these odors, even when experienced, is certainly not the fault of the investigators.

Immediately after this, in Room 1 Barry reports hearing a woman's voice. Later on Robb was with Ashley and she was wearing his super-headphone when she reported hearing a breath or something similar. We did learn that those headphones are actually intended for shooting ranges, which is actually a really good idea.  Essentially they protect hearing from the loud reports of gunshots by lowering the volume of those sounds, but amplify sounds which are more difficult to hear.  I'm not sure they work exactly they way they should if you were designing a pair of super-headphones specifically for Ghost Hunting but they're probably pretty close.

Robb was also experiencing a problem with the autofocus on his camcorder when aiming it near Ashley after asking spirits to approach her, and he postulated that perhaps a spirit was doing just that and the camera was attempting to focus on an invisible being standing between Robb and Ashley but Barry had a much more clever (and plausible) explanation, the IR sensitive camcorder was aiming towards Ashley AND the nearby DVR camera with built-on IR illuminators and was having an autofocus problem because of the resulting lens flare.

In the end they came away with no evidence except the woman's voice that several team members had heard, but Robb dismissed that as "a bird". I don't find this implausible so much as I'm just bothered by the non-specificity — is he just saying it's a bird because that seems like a reasonable assumption to him or did they actually do research and discovered a particular species of bird lives in this area and after listening to its call they realized that was what they'd been hearing?  If the former, then I don't find that any more scientific or satisfying than assuming a noise in an empty room must be a ghost. I hope that's not the case but when Robb simply said "a bird" rather than naming a particular bird I got the distinct impression there might be more assuming going on here than science, even when sticking to non-paranormal explanations.

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July 16, 2009

blinddog50 @ 8:43 am

After the Cesky Krumlov episode I didn't even bother. I only saw the end where the owner was expressing disappointment over not being haunted.
Other than entertainment value or the chance to make a buck by being a commercial establishment why would you want a ghost in your house.
Don't have problem with going elsewhere to look.
Just don't want one in my house.
Don't want to be in the shower or sitting on the head wondering if Capt. Smith from the 12th Penn. Calvary or the lady in whatever color dress is watching.

However, if you could list a ghost as a dependent on your taxes, I might reconsider.

Revenant @ 1:31 pm

What was the deal with Barry and Dustin and the coins on the floor? Dustin claimed that they heard the sounds of the coins moving, yet they were too faint to play back. Ok…so…why wasn't there a camera trained on the "trigger objects" as he called them? If the point of placing coins upon the floor is for the "ghost" to use them in some manner, then why aren't you documenting it? Unless Dustin was making the claim of the ghost using his own "ghostly coins" as opposed to those upon the floor. Either way…kind of odd…

CrowTRobot @ 1:59 pm

@ Revenant

ExACTly my thought. Barry puts coins on the floor to attract the ghost (landlord, was it?), but doesn't put a camera on the flippin' stack?!?!? Jeez! He's got more cameras than Kodak; put one of 'em on the bait! Nor did I hear the coins move, and judging from Dustin's initial reaction to Barry – he didn't either.

Patrick @ 2:49 pm

Come on Rev, why would you do that? Just like why would you film an area where a hanger has allegedly been thrown multiple times? Get with the program, real ghosthunters never want to directly film a ghost or haunted area. We all know it scares them away. :)

July 17, 2009

The Doctor @ 4:05 pm

I think a lot of Barry's actions can be explained if we remember that he gave guided ghost tours before getting together with TAPS and GHI. His focus was not on investigating, but making sure that the client had interesting and exciting personal experiences.

The coins were valid ghost bait, and gave the client ( Dustin ) the experience of thinking he heard them move. A camera that proved they didn't would have severly degraded that experience.

My favorite was when he took Kris (?) on a run through a castle snapping pictures at random. This he called a "frenzy", aimed at making a commotion which would hopefully draw out the ghosts to see what was going on. What a great idea .. the client remembers chasing after ( or running away from ) the ghosties, and might even have some blurry shadow pictures to prove it.

We even get to see 3 blurry pictures of Dustin in this episode – If they were blured out some more, he might have got a spirit instead.

To give production their due, when Joe discovers Robb's "camera out of focus" sequence, they provide us a split screen of Robb's camera and the production camera that was in the room. It's obvious that Robb's camera freaks out when production aims towards him – ghost debunked.

It's also obvious from Barry's explantion involving "one of the DVR cameras" that he is avoiding any mention of the production cam. Acknowledgement of production would also degrade the TV viewers experience, and the experience, not the facts are paramount.

July 18, 2009

Learjet @ 2:52 pm

Dustin has a video camera pointed in the direction of the coins, but it looks like he is pointed high and they are out of frame when Barry supposedly hears them move. Not sure.

July 20, 2009

Cheryl H @ 6:01 pm

Anyone going to read Barry and Dustin's new book they wrote together?

blinddog50 @ 7:45 pm

Barry can write?
Dustin can think?
Shazzam!!

Revenant @ 11:23 pm

Cheryl H- "Anyone going to read Barry and Dustin's new book they wrote together?"

What's it called? "How To 'Not' Film A Ghost Moving Coins On The Floor Even Though, You Know, That Would Constitute Something Called Evidence Of The Paranormal And The Reason Why We're Doing This Whole Thing?"

Um, probably not…but the title is snazzy…

July 21, 2009

Cheryl H @ 9:28 am

Funny stuff. The book is called "The Complete Approach" Here is what the ad said about it:
'For too long researchers have been taking a split approach to probing the paranormal. Finally there is a book that combines the sensitive understanding of the metaphysical world along with a scientific method of measurement and documentation.

Hey they know how to cash in on a good thing. Gotta give them that.

Ron B. @ 1:37 pm

This may sound odd, but I actually found it refreshing to see an episode containing two investigations (as this one did) where the GHI team refused to claim one or both places "haunted" based on the "evidence." They had stuff happen but wisely chose to dismiss it as "evidence" of anything. It's as though someone finally said, "Screw the ratings. Let's be honest this time." After all, we all know, this is how the vast majority of investigations do go.

The Doctor @ 2:01 pm

Logisti – "…but Barry had a much more clever (and plausible) explanation, the IR sensitive camcorder was aiming towards Ashley AND the nearby DVR camera with built-on IR illuminators and was having an autofocus problem because of the resulting lens flare."

The only problem with Barry's explanation is that there was NO DVR camera setup in room #1

Curious that he would make this statement since he should have remembered setting it up, and IF there was one there he should have been checking IT's recording at that moment.

That could explain production creating the split screen using it's and Robb's camera. Barry appears to have gotten the right answer with the wrong information, and simply cutting the scene would have left them with a bigger hole to fill with generally no content from the Manor House.

July 22, 2009

alicat @ 2:38 pm

This was perhaps, the most flimsy "case" presented on only 3 pieces of on camera "claimed" paranormal evidence. When Robb stated “We get to investigate the most haunted part of a haunted island, the Manor House. Most of it is full apparitions and quite a few of them and I think we have a real chance at catching something incredible.”, that should have been the tip off.

First, the caretaker and a former employee talk about a shadow seen in the hallway which was immediately debunked by Robb by plainly walking up to the door and turning around and walking back outside with no noise and in no time at all.

The second claim of the caretaker was that of a woman coming downstairs to tell her she saw the dark figure of a woman and then it just went away. But, to hear Robb tell the story to Ashley, it comes out like a campfire ghost story and/or the Gonsalves syndrome once again. Robb proceeds to tell Ashley that a woman (cue the scary music)"saw a woman standing at the foot of the bed, she freaks out, runs out". He then adds that the hotel staff goes to the room and the dark figure is gone!

The last claim the caretaker made was that there was an exorcism which took place and yet there is no documentation other than (once again) her story. She made claims of things flying off shelves, moving around the room, doors slamming, and that a priest followed it around the house to #6 and pushed it out the window. Supposedly this ghost returned about 30-40 years ago in the form of a claim of sounds heard (from the room below) like someone walking across the room. Barry’s claim was that the exorcism was to last 99 years. Seriously? There’s a 99 year warranty on exorcisms? And isn't it easy to say something (particularly a bathroom) has a musty odor and it dissipated quickly upon the closed door being opened? We only have Dustin’s word as Barry, like us, just listened. I'm sorry but you are on a rocky island, 6 miles from the mainland, with a population of @ 70 and in a house that some portions go back as far as 1760. The National Trust took it over in 1998 and opened it as a bed and breakfast and it has just recently been refurbished per the Manor House’s own website. I’m surprised we didn’t have the obligatory GH phone call to get on screen time with Jason & Grant to solve that mystery! Here’s the key – refurbishment expenses. From what I have researched, there have never been any claims of haunted/paranormal activity at the Manor House or any claims that the island is haunted as Robb claimed. Neither the National Trust or Manor House websites mention anything other than how peaceful and tranquil it is on Rathlin Island.

On another note, the reason they went from a woman voice/murmur to the sound of a possible bird was because the island, 6 miles long and no more than 1 mile wide, has steep cliffs and on the west of the island is the renowned RSPB Seabird Centre.

Interesting that the cameras were set up to shoot (1) going down stairs where Barry stated there was a report of a child seen holding a candle, (2) in the Dining room where this same child had been seen, and (3) in the lower hallway to try to see the shadow near the Dining Room. There were no claims (on screen) of any child seen holding a candle or seeing this same child in the Dining Room.

Bottom line, this was a waste of everyone’s time no one will ever get back. I shudder to think this is the best they can do and they are only in the beginning of season 2. Robb gushing about a place at the beginning and then at the end saying we had some experiences and we had some stories and then finishing with “the best thing we can do is add to those stories”? Do they ever vet these places?




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