June 19, 2008

MQ: Ohio Grass Man

As befitting a creature as legendary (and reportedly widespread) as Bigfoot, MonsterQuest has put together a number of entirely separate local investigations dealing specifically with reports from one region or another. In this particular investigation, they examined reports of a "Grass Man" in Ohio. Although it's clear many regions have local names that apply specifically to the creatures reported in their local area, this is often due in part to the creatures reportedly having physical or behavioral peculiarities that set them apart from similar creatures reported elsewhere in the world.

Reports of the Grass Man go back to when Ohio was first settled, the settlers saw what they believed to be some primitive natives living among the tall grass. Although the physical descriptions did not correspond to Native American Indians, apparently not much thought was given to these reclusive neighbors and not much was reported about them.

In the mid-eighteen-hundreds the Ohio Grass Man came to the forefront of the public mind when a couple out for a walk claimed to have been attacked by an enormous "wild man". The description was of a creature very similar to traditional descriptions of bigfoot, and thus began a tradition of the Grass Man becoming a boogey-man type figure in the local culture.

Obviously, stories are great but evidence is king so MonsterQuest enlisted a number of experts in both investigative and advisory positions. On the investigative side of things there were two very cool techniques used: First, trail cameras — with a twist.

Trail Cameras have become a key tool in the arsenal of many cryptozoologists, and with excellent reason. The cameras can be attached to any tree with a bungee cord, have a low profile and are colored to blend into the forest, are powered with D-cell batteries to give them a long usage period, and take photos only when a motion sensor is triggered.  This is the same technology that has been used to successfully confirm the continued existence of several endangered species in the jungles of east-asia and elsewhere, and it's relatively inexpensive — especially compared with FLIR, which we'll get to momentarily.

What made this trail camera investigation unique was that unlike previous setups I've seen, where the team sets up cameras in locations based on nearby game trails or water sources, in this case the team decided to set up a lure — but instead of using the more traditional lure of food, the team decided to use a hunter's approach and use a decoy. They constructed a realistic face based on eyewitness reports and actual primates (the end result looked very similar to a mountain gorilla's face) and secured it in a scarecrow style above a cross-bar draped with realistic black fur, then secured the rig to a tree.

Unfortunately, this did not yield them any results, but if there is any realistic chance a large north-american ape does exist I think this method may be one of the best chances to get photographic evidence of the creature. As MonsterQuest points out though, the creature may already have been caught on camera.

Following up on a recent report, one Ohio bigfoot researcher videotaped the area where the creature had been witnessed, but having seen nothing he packed away his footage and went home. Over a year later as he was scouring old tapes to find a particular piece of film he watched this film again and for the first time noticed that he actually had caught something on tape.  It was distant and fuzzy, but it appeared to be a large creature walking upright.

The tape was analyzed by a video expert, but the footage was too poor in quality to be significantly improved digitally. The expert opinion: It definitely seemed to be a creature walking upright, but beyond that it was impossible to tell.

Certainly, it is well within the realm of possibility this man caught a person walking in the background — although it would be odd for a person to be walking so far off the road and into the woods, as the creature in the video does. Unfortunately, the man behind the camera never actually saw it at the time he was filming, so he cannot be sure.

Other eyewitnesses can be sure, but have no camera evidence that would convince the rest of the world. One man was driving a delivery truck down a local highway when he saw an enormous black creature walking upright through an open area with no trees and very little underbrush. He stopped his truck and jumped out to get a better look, but the creature moved quickly and was out of sight within a matter of seconds.

A husband and wife were sharing an evening in the woods of a nearby state park and were just packing up the truck to head home when something caught the woman's eye and she looked up to see a large bipedal creature staring at them from the far side of the clearing. She pointed it out and her husband saw it too. Both of them insist the night was bright and there was no mistaking what they had seen. Within just a few moments the creature turned and walked back into the woods.

Perhaps the most chilling eyewitness report was of a woman who awoke in the middle of the night to hear her dog barking. The dog was looking at a nearby window as it barked and she was struck with fear as she saw what appeared to be someone outside the window looking into her house.  At first she thought it was a burglar, but then as she remained frozen with fear she began to realize it was doing something odd. It almost seemed to be mimicking or growling in response to her little dog's bark, and then it would turn its head and sniff the air.

When the creature turned and stepped away from the window she got the courage to run up and look out. What she reported seeing was an enormous hairy creature that walked on two legs and covered the twenty-odd-feet to her nearby shed in just four or five steps. As it walked it turned momentarily to look back at the house and she saw the face quite clearly, a face that was closer to that of an ape than a man.

Unfortunately, as intriguing as these stories are, they do not provide the scientific evidence we need — but another MonsterQuest team was a strong contender to fill that evidence gap with a remote control helicopter and a FLIR thermal imaging camera. The helicopter was of a type used by SWAT teams and the military for light reconnesaince. The MonsterQuest team rigged a soft camera mount that allowed the camera to be moved in three dimensions independently of the helicopter as it hovered above the treeline.

The team was using a battery-operated motor in order to reduce the sound profile of their helicopter (which, although much quiter than the combustion engine model, was still fairly loud) and this seemed to limit their flight time significantly enough that I would have probably just gone with the regular motor — there is nowhere to hide from the FLIR — but c'est la vie.

In fact, during one flight they did pick up a heat signature, but the helicopter was nearly out of juice and needed to land. Subsequent flights and investigation didn't turn anything up, but there was really no way to determine whether the distant heat signature was a Grass Man, a deer, an owl, or what. Still, I think this is a fantastic idea for an investigative method.

Police have been using FLIR cameras on helicopters for years and once a helicopter joins a police chase there is really no way for a criminal on foot to hide. Jumping into a bush or under a tree will not make him invisible to the thermal eye in the sky, and that thermal camera can sweep a large area of landscape with very little effort. In the end, if there is a north-american ape living deep in our forests and largely avoiding contact with humans then aerial FLIR photography may be the only way we can be certain to find it.

There were two interesting pieces of physical evidence I haven't discussed yet, and that is the skull and the palm-print.  One Ohio man had followed a group of carrion-birds to find what he initially thought was a dog skull, until he picked it up. It was a Baboon skull, confirmed by a primatologist. Baboons are only about three feet tall and don't walk on two legs, it's not likely anyone would see one and mistake it for a bigfoot, but that still leaves the question of how a recently deceased baboon came to be a carrion meal for some birds in the middle of an Ohio wilderness.

Much more intriguing is the palm print a hunter came across in southern ohio. He made a plaster cast of the print which was later examined by an expert in primate (including human) dermal ridges. The expert was not able to confirm whether the print came from a known species of primate, but he was comfortable with the following conclusions: The print was absolutely made by a real animal and was not a forgery, the print is definitely not from a human, and the closest resemblence is with the palm of a mountain gorilla.

Now, this leaves open the possibility that the print was obtained someplace other than where the hunter reported finding it — to my knowledge there is nothing to prove he didn't get the cast from some buddy who might work as a zoo — but similarly there is no evidence to suggest the man's story isn't perfectly true.

There are certainly some odd things going on in the Ohio wilderness. Errant baboons aside, one bigfoot researcher, searching an area of wilderness in the mid-90's came across what seemed to be a dome-nest of sorts, built with a complex weave of branches and grass and large enough to shelter three grown men. The primatologist from a zoo in Minnesota reviewed the photos and was dumbfounded. She knew of no apes that built such elaborate nests.  The men tried to recreate the nest years later to test the idea that perhaps it was a fort built by a bunch of kids, and discovered after a number of hours that it was an incredibly difficult undertaking and they didn't even get close.

Still, they've never seen another nest like that either.

In the end this investigation raised many more questions than it answered. There are many who believe if there was a north-american ape we would have found it by now, but proponents of the theory point out that mountain gorillas themselves weren't discovered by science until years after World War II and before that were considered fanciful tales told by the locals. We'll just have to keep looking and see what turns up.

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June 19, 2008

J. @ 4:51 pm

I enjoyed this episode of MQ. Ohio has many reports of bigfoot and it certainly was warranted that an investigation take place in that state.

Using a decoy bigfoot around the trail cameras was a good idea. Hey, it works for deer hunting, so why not use it to try and lure in a sasquatch? It was also a good idea to use three cameras so that they wouldn't miss catching something like they could've if just one cam was used. It's unfortunate that they didn't get any evidence from the cameras though.

The vocalization recording attributed to Grassman sounds like other recordings also attributed to 'squatch. But obviously you can't prove it did come from one unless you see the animal making it while you're recording it. Nevertheless, they are interesting.

The baboon skull turning up in the eastern Ohio woods was weird, but as the primatologist said, there are reasons for it, such as one escaping from a circus or a zoo. The cast of the primate hand print was also interesting and was authenticated by Chilcutt. But if a baboon was loose in Ohio, could a gorilla have also been roaming around and made that hand print?

The dome nest was also intriguing. It was 10 feet long by 3 feet wide, and as you mentioned Logisti, was big enough for three adult men to fit inside the hollow part of it. This isn't the only reported nest allegedly made by a bigfoot either. There's an analysis of three more nests on the BFRO site. These are from California.

The white dot on the FLIR video appeared to me to be a bird or something in the treetop. It didn't look like it was on the ground in my opinion.

I have seen Don Keating's footage before and it certainly is interesting. It is tall, bipedal, light in color, and moving quickly. It's a shame that the quality of the VHS video prevented the expert from being able to identify whether it was a tall human, a bigfoot, or something else.

The remote control helicopter they used was cool but it would've been nice if it was stealthier. Back in 2003 on the show Mysterious Encounters, also dealing with cryptozoology, they used similar remote controlled aerial vehicles with a camera and FLIR attached. One was a blimp with a motor that was kinda loud. I'm not sure whether it or the chopper used last night was louder. They also used a blimp attached to a wire that just floated above them and was silent.

They need to deploy more technology like this for longer periods of time because it will take a lot of time to find an elusive creature such as Bigfoot. It's the proverbial needle in a haystack.

And despite the odds, the search should continue because there's enough evidence to warrant further investigating.

June 20, 2008

Logisti @ 12:03 am

Well the interesting thing about that gorilla-ish print is exactly the one you mention: If the baboon's skull was in the ohio wilderness because a baboon escaped from captivity and lived its final days in that wilderness then one could reasonably speculate (as you did) that perhaps a gorilla may have escaped captivity and was living in said wilderness as well.

Now, my primary issue with that hypothesis is that gorillas are endangered and therefore harder to get hold of and one would expect more difficult to lose. That being said, what if someone had — at some point in the past — illegally smuggled one into the country as a pet?

I've never heard of this being done with gorillas, but certainly there have been documented cases of this happening with other exotic and occasionally endangered species… and we don't even have to assume such an animal escaped, many owners of such exotic animals secretly release them into the nearby wilderness when they realize they can't deal with keeping them as pets.

Also, we know that gorillas are still poached by hunters in some African nations, so what is to say that perhaps they are not occasionally captured alive by people engaged in similar illegal enterprise?

We may not have evidence any such thing has happened, but I think we can make a strong case it's plausible — the next question would be: is it plausible that the people who report seeing this creature actually saw a gorilla? Interestingly, I think this is the less plausible possibility, and here's why:

Gorillas certainly stand upright, especially when trying to make a show of intimidation, which would be a natural thing to do if one of them stumbled into a situation where they were face to face with humans. The problem is that so many of these witnesses were very clear about seeing the creature walk on two legs, significant distances and often at significant speed. Gorillas simply can't do that.

I don't think it's fair to assume all of the witnesses who specifically mentioned that detail are mistaken, although we can't rule it out, but frankly it seems to me that it's more likely they saw a man wearing a bigfoot costume than an escaped gorilla.

…and therein lies the problem, there isn't a single thread that ties everything together. In fact, the mere fact that a gorilla can't be ruled out as the originator of that palm print, and that someone found a baboon's skull in the wilderness, begs the question: Why no conclusively non-gorilla (i.e. convincingly authentic, traditional-style bigfoot) prints? Why no bigfoot skull?

These are very valid questions, and they require some specific rationalizations: We have to assume these creatures fear humans and are experts at hiding, migrate long distances, bury their dead, etc. Plausible, to be sure, but the more assumptions you have to make in order to justify a lack of evidence, the weaker your case, I think.

…but while we can look at all of the circumstantial evidence and dismiss it as inconclusive, we still come back to the eyewitness reports — and of course eyewitness reports can't be considered scientific or even necessarily reliable, but with this kind of consistency and detail it's hard to make the case everyone is "mistaken" and then you're left with the explanation that they're either telling the truth accurately or they're making it up.

It's really frustrating.

I will say though, I like the blimp idea and I'll take you one further: create a helium balloon rig that is tethered to the ground and mount a camera on it with an actuator that allows an operator to adjust the angle. You could even run a power cable up the tether and it could operate indefinitely. Even just on battery power you could get a good amount of continuous coverage with a rig like that — and cheap (except for the FLIR).

Brandon @ 4:36 am

Logisti, I particularly enjoyed your analysis of this week’s Monster Quest, but I have one comment. Many people that argue about the existence of Bigfoot, use the very same example you gave about the Mountain Gorillas and how science thought they too were a myth. But here are just a few of the differences:

1. Many of those sightings reported seeing multiple Mountain Gorillas. Many of the locals, in fact, had scene entire families. Bigfoot is almost always seen alone.

2. Mountain Gorillas, like all primates, are social creatures. While they are normally afraid of humans, they live in groups with mountain gorillas. You wouldn’t see one traveling along on its own.

3. Primates do not migrate. They stay in a very small area for most of their lives. The Mountain Gorillas sightings in Africa were in a much more concentrated area. The shear area of the Bigfoot sightings in America, Canada, Russia, etc would indicate tens of thousands of Bigfoot creatures out there.

4. Finally, while I agree that Rwanda and the Congo were virtually uncharted prior to WW2 (and there are still areas like that today), Ohio is quite different. Washington, Oregon, and Canada I might be able to see, but Ohio? That I have a hard time believing.

I did enjoy the aerial footage, but I would have liked it to be a bit longer. Flying for only a few minutes covers less distance that could be achieved on foot. I am not sure why stealth is needed since helicopters are equipped with the FLIR camera and Bigfoot should be asleep anyway. That is why I had hoped that they would use a Gasoline powered Helicopter since they can travel significantly longer. But the blimp and the balloon rig are also good ideas.

Logisti @ 10:40 am

Brandon, excellent points. I would counter-argue thusly:

Ohio is certainly a far cry from pre-WWII Congo, but as you noted, we are looking at a much larger area of reported sightings than just Ohio.

Primates are social creatures, but this does not preclude them traveling alone. It's possible family units never venture anywhere near people and that only the eldest member of a family unit ventures out, possibly in search of food.

To assume they would behave like gorillas would be to assume they are vegetarians. If they are omnivores then they would need to cover a larger area, like other predators do.

This wouldn't necessarily be the same as migration, but we would expect such a primate to be more intelligent and adaptable than, say, a mountain lion. That means we could expect the territory they hunt on to be more fluid and less well-defined.

Finally, if we use ancient humans as a model for primate behavior we can clearly see the normal rules of territoriality no longer apply. Migration in search of food becomes a historical fact and migration for other, possibly more complex reasons (from Siberia to Alaska, for instance) also occurs.

One of the most interesting points is the hypothesis, suggested by the evidence and eyewitness reports, that these animals are nocturnal. To my knowledge, there are no nocturnal primates in the great ape family. Some might say this is an indicator that the stories hold no water, but it could also be an indicator of learned behavior. They may have learned to avoid us.

To be sure, we've got a lot of assumptions to live up to. We've narrowed down the population size & behavior of these animals not primarily with evidence, but the lack of it. Still, none of the assumptions seem so unlikely as to fatally wound the possibility such animals might yet exist.

Shinobiscout @ 12:43 pm

I really enjoyed the episode of the Ohio Grass man but I would like to point some things out that the average lay person viewing the show may not be aware of. First, let me start by saying I have attended several primitive survival workshops workshops, and have met some people who live in Ohio at these classes. There are at least two survival schools in Northeast Ohio that have taught primitive survival skills to hundreds of people within the last decade. Additionally, there have been hundreds of more people who have taken primitive survival classes at Tom Brown’s survival school in New Jersey from all over USA and Canada.

#1 Dome shaped nest- I watched two fellow students build a debris shelter in Michigan that looked very similar to the dome shaped nests that were on Monster Quest (and a few months ago were on the BFRO website). It took them almost three hours to build. This was two years ago and the debris shelter is still there today. These could be nothing more then people (who live in that area) practicing what they learned at the survival schools and building survival shelters.

#2 Ohio Grassman- I personally know one person/scout in Northeast Ohio who for the last decade wears a green/brown ghilie suit (Sniper outfit) at night and purposely walks around near the roadway. He waits for cars to slow down then runs into the woods. Last year he got to close to one of his neighbor's house (he lives in a rural area) and had the Sheriff' Office called on him. He had to hide in the woods/swamp behind his house for a couple of hours until the Deputies left. He (along with his fellow scouts) also go to State Parks and howl like a Bigfoot would at the campers while hiding in the woods. Additionally,he has speacial large shoes which leave a "Bigfoot" impression on the ground.He gets a kick out of this and enjoys reading about his wacky hijinks on the BFRO website or other media. I’m not saying he is responsible for all or most of the sightings, but it should be noted that there are other people in Ohio who get a kick on donning their Ghilie suits and pranking people.

J. @ 2:20 pm

It's plausible that some people who report seeing a bigfoot did see an escaped or released gorilla or possibly some other type of primate. In the Florida Skunk Ape episode of season one on MQ, one of the eyewitnesses description of what he saw fit that of an escaped chimpanzee. If they only saw the subject moving in a quadrupedal fashion, then it'd be even more plausible. But if it was walking or running bipedally the whole time, then it's a different ball game.

I agree with you that it's not fair, or really even logical, to assume that all the people who have seen one were mistaken. There are simply too many reports for them to all be a mistake of some kind or a hoax.

I think the guy who found the baboon skull got lucky, plain and simple.

As far the rationalization for not finding bigfoot bones, I'll quote the BFRO FAQ: "Remains do not become fossilized very often, but unless that happens, all the remains will, in time, become completely reabsorbed into the ecosystem. There would be remains of animals everywhere if remains were not naturally recycled, including bones and teeth."

Also during the Florida Skunk Ape episode of MonsterQuest, they did an experiment to see how long it would take a dead deer to be consumed by the forest. It only took 7 days and all that was left were bones. The expert thought it would take a month. As for the bones, here's what the MQ episode said: "The remaining pile of bones would either be quickly covered by foliage or carried off by larger scavengers, leaving only traces of the corpse and the victim unidentifiable to all but the most experienced eye."

What you say about rationalizations makes me think of the more dismissive skeptics (obviously not you Logisiti) who like to throw out some alternative explanations and see which ones stick to the wall. Bigfoot is just a cultural phenomenon and not a real animal? Ok, but since when did other cultural phenomenon's pop into existence and become real flesh and blood creatures that leave behind tracks and hairs? People misidentify animals for something else? Of course they do, but not thousands of people. They basically say you you can't trust your own eyes when you see something strange, but the rest of the time they function fine? Frankly, a lot of the skeptics "debunking" concerning bigfoot is weak and flimsy.

I think it'd also be useful to TAPS and other ghost hunters to use a thermal camera mounted on a blimp. They could deploy it where there are sightings of ghosts outside and in wooded areas.

Another thing that adds to the frustration of bigfoot investigators are hoaxers.

Shinobiscout: It's probably not the wisest thing to be wandering out in the woods hoaxing people, especially if the people he/they are trying to hoax are alarmed and armed.

Shinobiscout @ 2:32 pm

J.

I totally agree. He and his fellow pranksters are very lucky they haven't been shot at yet. I do remember him telling me he got arrested a few years back for disturbing the peace while he was hiding in the woods at a State Park, howling/yelling at the campers.
He's a nice guy, but a bit reckless.

June 24, 2008

joedy cook @ 7:05 pm

i read all the comments on this site about the MONSTER QUEST show the Ohio Grassman i'm Joedy Cook one of the ohio researchers on the show that found the baboon skull. MQ left out a lot of inportent info about the skull and hand print.as for the hand print i did not find it a hunter did it was given to me by him. adams county ohio is wear both were found. adam county is wail known for illegal animal trade that is how the baboon may have gotten there as for the hand print i'm lost. MQ had this info but did not give it out why ? if you have anay questions you can e-mail me at oc4bfs -at- hotmail -dot- com

July 6, 2008

gregory @ 7:04 pm

I like this show very much. I did want to comment that I noticed when the equipment was being placed in the field the researchers were handling it with bare hands, no gloves. Is it possible that the contamination of human scent might warn away any creature with a keen sense of smell and a fear of humans?

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February 18, 2009

parick connelly @ 1:26 pm

i have seen the grassman

bullerspoke @ 1:30 pm

I have seen the grass, man.

(Sorry, couldn't resist…)

July 11, 2009

gerald long @ 5:45 pm

iv seen bigfoot creatures several times at salt fork state park in se ohio back in the 1980's. i was in n.carolina's mountains in 1990's-2002. i saw alot of cougar there,also bear, but no bigfoot. iv also seen bigfoot at fredericktown kokosing resorvoir,&knox lake , all sightings while catfishing at night.

August 11, 2009

Colleen @ 11:05 pm

I have information concerning the kenmore grassman,something that was seen around southern summit co. or more the portage lakes area.

September 22, 2009

SHERRI SEVERA @ 5:15 am

I LIVE IN ASHTABULA OHIO AND SEVERAL MONTHS AGO I KNOW I SAW A HUGE CREATURE WALKING UPRIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD I WAS DRIVING ON. IT WAS AROUND 1:00AM IN THE MORNING I WAS COMING HOME FROM WORK AND VERY CLOSE TO MY HOME. IT WAS SO CLEAR THAT ONCE I GOT TO THE AREA ON THE ROAD THAT IT CROSSED I STOPPED MY CAR TO SEE IF I COULD GET ANOTHER LOOK AT WHATEVER IT WAS. SINCE THEN WE HAVE LOCATED AND PHOTOGRAPHED SEVERAL INTERESTING THINGS ON OUR THIRTEEN ACRE HOME, ONE OF WHICH IS WHAT WE THINK IS A PICTURE OF IT BEHIND A STRUCTURE BUILT OR CREATED THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE TYPE SHOWN ON SIGHTS RELATING TO THE OHIO GRASS MAN. IN ADDITION, OUT BEHIND OUR HOUSE WE FOUND A CLUMP OF BLACK HAIR THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BELONG TO THIS CREATURE OR POSSIBLY TO A BEAR. HOWEVER, WITH ALL THE THINGS WE ARE SEEING IN THIS AREA….YOU HAVE TO WONDER!

IF ANYONE WANTS FURTHER INFORMATION OR CAN HELP US, PLEASE CONTACT THE EMAIL NOTED ABOVE, WE DO HAVE PICTURES…..

October 4, 2009

don drown @ 10:11 am

WHILE DEER HUNTING UP IN NORTHERN MISSOURI I CAME UPON A TALL WEEDED AREA. AS I STARTED TO WALK AROUND THE TALL WEEDED AREA TO LOOK FOR DEER I SUDDENLY NOTICED THAT THERE WAS AN OPENING INTO THE SIDE OF THE WEEDS I BENT OVER AND LOOKED IN THE OPENING AND NOTICED THAT INSIDE OF THE OPENING WAS ALL BEDDED DOWN LIKE SOMETHING HAD LAYED IN IT. ISTEPPED BACK TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE WEEDED AREA AND NOTICED THAT THESE WEEDS SEEMED TO BE PUSHED TOGETHER LIKE INDIVIDULE HUTS IQUICKLY PULLED MY RIFLE UP AND WALKED TO ANOTHER HUT/POD TO FIND ANOTHER OPENING AND WHAT SEEMED TO ME TO BE LAYED IN.THERE WAS AT LEAST TEN OR MORE OF THESE.MY MIND WAS SO ON DEER I NEVER THOUGHT MAYBE BIGFOOT.I SLOWLY WALKED AROUND HOPING TO SEE A DEER BUT NEVER SAW ONE.WHLE WALKING AROUND AND LOOKING AT THESE THINGS I WAS REALLY CONFUSED ON HOW A DEER COULD PUSH THIS GRASS TOGETHER AND BE SMART ENOUGH TO CRAWL INSIDE TO LAY. I THOUGHT MAYBE IT USED ITS ANTLERS TO PUSH THE WEEDS TOGETHER. AGAIN I SUCH IN THE DEER MODE NEVER THOUGHT MAYBE BIGFOOT.COMING HOME AND A FEW MONTHS LATER I SUDDENLY WHILE DRIVING IN THE CAR PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER AND REALIZED THERE WAS A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT I HAD SEEN THAT SAME WEEKEND 1 TREES VERY NEAR THAT AREA WHERE LIMBS WERE BROKEN OFF VERY HIGH 2 REMAINS OF A DEER ,STOMACH AREA EATEN OUT 3 SCAT ON A TOP OF A FALLEN TREE.IN EACH OF THESE INSTANCES I THOUGHT IT WAS WEIRD AND HAD UNEASY FEELING AND CAUTINNESS.MY COUSIN WAS ALSO THERE AND RECALLS THE WEEDED AREA.

alicat @ 11:09 am

don drown,

Your cousin just called and explained the whole story. It's time to go back home now. ;)

Nosfer @ 11:33 am

And also, thanks to the wonders of compressed air, I think we got yours and Sherrie's Caps Lock key unstuck :) Sherrie, can you post the pictures somewhere, I don't see any email address like you mentioned.

Stephen @ 11:06 pm

Hi Don and Sherri,

This area is for commenting on the MonsterQuest episode directly. If you'd like to talk about a paranormal experience you've had, please head on over to the "Possibly Paranormal" section of the forums. Just click on the "Forums" link above.

Also, to have people take you seriously– best not to type in ALL CAPS.

May 4, 2010

Big Foot Hunter @ 12:30 pm

I am very intrigued by your story, please tell me more. If you could possibly send me some pictures that would be great. I would also like to come out sometime and try to see this object so further research can be done. Thanks Ryan Meyer

May 5, 2010

Sherri Severa @ 5:24 am

We would be very happy to talk to you about this. Please contact me directly through my e-mail with your phone number or how we can communicate without posting it on this site. Your email address you contacted me by came through as "do not reply" so I am not sure you got my message earlier.

Hope to hear from you!

Sherri Severa




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