June 14, 2008

MonsterQuest: Ghosts

I've been watching MonsterQuest on the History Channel for some time now, but haven't gotten around to discussing any of their episodes here, which is a crime because I find that show to be simply fantastic. They do a thorough job getting the best arguments from all quarters and putting all of it in front of the viewer in a coherent manner. When I saw the show broadcast this past week was on Ghosts, I just had to do a quick write-up.

First off, the way MonsterQuest often works is they not only go out and collect evidence and interviews from relevant people, but they also send out a team of relevant experts to conduct their own investigation on behalf of the show. Most impressive is how well the MQ teams always manage to cover all their bases when planning and setting up their investigations. For this episode they had a team investigate the Lizzie Borden house, and though I felt that was kind of a tired subject it turns out they made it entirely worthwhile.

Their setup consisted of the highest resolution, most advanced FLIR camera, operated by an expert on FLIR cameras and reviewed by another thermal imaging expert; dual recorders for EVP work (I did not actually see this, but it was mentioned twice so I probably just missed the second recorder, or else they placed it elsewhere in the room); they even had a voice recognition expert — apparently among the first to authenticate Osama bin Laden's voice on a 2002 audio tape after the al-Qaeda leader was initially suspected to have been killed in bombing and missile strikes — listen to the EVP recordings and attempt to authenticate them as actual voices and not just background noise.

I mean, this was an all-star team. This is how these investigations should be done — not that everyone has the money to go all out like this, but when someone does then it's a real treat for those of us who thirst for research done with practically unimpeachable credibility, and the corresponding results.

On the interview side of things, one of the experts they interviewed extensively was Jeff Belanger, whom I'd like to give a shout-out to. Jeff was chief editor of the humor magazine at my college and was just crazy enough to publish my story about a very bloody elf revolt in one of the Christmas editions. While hardcore skeptics may not find Jeff quite skeptical enough for their tastes, I think his insight is a valuable addition to any discussion of the paranormal and it's to MonsterQuest's credit that they spend the time to get the opinions of serious researchers like Jeff rather than some of the more well-known (and oftentimes less credible) personalities of the paranormal investigative arena.

MQ had experts review a number of different pieces of evidence, including the famous blue gas station "ghost" footage from a couple of years ago, and a 2001 piece from Gettysburg that I'd never actually seen. On the gas station, the show did not conclusively claim the image was a bug sitting on the lens, but they put forward enough evidence to suggest it very likely was. The Gettysburg footage was another matter entirely, though.

This footage, I thought, was really interesting. At first there appear to be human figures moving from the left-central, bottom portion of the frame as if walking up a slight incline to the left, then figures are seen moving to the right, as if there was a switchback in the trail and it continued to the right, also at a slight uphill slope. The video I linked to appears to be the original, but MQ and their experts enhanced the footage and the images seem even more clearly to be the outlines of people walking.

The most interesting aspects of this video are that there appear to be a fair number of people, meaning we get a fairly good and repeated look, which helps to rule out a lot of possible electronic or visual anomalies, but there also appears to be an odd repetitiveness, as if watching something on a loop. The man who took the video was interviewed by MonsterQuest and he asserted that there were a number of other visitors behind him, but no one in the field in front of him.

I was considering the possibility he was simply mistaken about nobody being in the field — because in the enhanced video it very clearly looks like there are people (more than a couple of them) in the field, but oddly the explanation favored by the MQ expert who reviewed the footage was that this might have been done by putting a pane of glass between the camera and the field and then projecting a repeating image onto the glass in order to make it appear as if there were figures moving in the field.

I believe the reason he favored this explanation over an actual group of real people walking up a path in single file is because the daylight footage of the area shows the land there is rather flat and therefore the figures must have been elevated off the ground (therefore they couldn't be real) but the idea of this guy staging such a complex hoax, with his family and little kid, in front of the other tourists that must have been nearby, to me that seems almost as far out as claiming the footage is definitive proof of ghosts, so I'm not sure what to believe.

Because the repetition was not exactly the same each time and because it appeared only in a couple of distinct places it occurred to me perhaps the breeze was making a couple of branches sway and the light happened to catch the leaves in an odd way that made it look like someone was walking uphill, but while that's the best "normal" explanation I've got, it still seems like it's reaching a bit, even to me.

The Lizzie Borden House investigation turned up a couple of interesting pieces of evidence: On the FLIR there was a trunk that one team (a couple of years back) had placed a camera on and twice in a row something made the camera turn left about 45 degrees.

The MQ team was not able to reproduce this, but they did notice on the FLIR that the bottom of the trunk seemed to have a temperature anomaly. It did not feel warm to the touch, but it registered on the FLIR as significantly warmer than the rest of the trunk or even the floor below it. The thermal imaging expert noted that there was a brass rim around the bottom of the trunk which could be reflecting heat from someone standing in front of the trunk (similar to the heat reflections we've discussed extensively in the podcast and other articles on the site) but because it was so completely uniform, even as the cameraman moved, he wasn't entirely comfortable with that explanation and said he couldn't offer any conclusions.

There were also a number of possible EVPs that were picked up by the team. I should say that as much as I admire MQ for going out and getting a voice recognition expert to review their audio, I do question how useful his conclusions are. After all, he is an expert at determining human speech, but as someone once pointedly asked me, since when are we assuming ghosts have vocal chords?

If the EVP phenomenon is actually an attempt at communication by a disembodied entity of some kind then it stands to reason that it is accomplished by manipulating interference to approximate a voice. In other words, it's not actually a voice — which is why a true EVP is not audible to the human ear and even why it is theorized that it should only show up on one recording device (the one being interfered with by the entity).

Still, the voice recognition expert lent some interesting scrutiny to some of the audio, and one piece in particular piqued his curiosity. There was only one piece he could not confirm wasn't a human voice, and it occurred as the crew was wrapping up their recording session in Lizzie Borden's room. There is some discussion between crew members and investigators when we hear what seems to be a voice whispering, "Sooooooo….."

Because it had no pitch (since it appeared to be a whisper) it couldn't be clearly attributed to a human voice, but the pattern (especially the 'Ssss' sound in the beginning) seemed striking enough that even the expert said it was obvious to him it was a real sound in the room and quite possibly a human voice. He also pointed out that because how loud something is on tape is proportional to the inverse-square of the distance, he believed the source of the sound was very close to the recorder.

Interestingly, there is video footage of the room when the sound occurs, and the recorder is plainly on the bed with no one standing within anywhere near it. Equally worth noting, the sound actually appeared on a second recorder — which confirms the notion that it was a real sound, but it was nearly as loud on the second recorder — which was nowhere near the first recorder, making it nearly impossible for this to have been a human voice.

They didn't really go into this on the show, but from the volume of the recordings, as well as where the recorders seem to be in relation to each other, I'm going to make a few rough estimates. First off, the comparative volumes lead me to believe the source of the sound was significantly closer to the main recording device on the bed, the second recording seemed less than half the volume. For argument's sake let's suppose if the distance from the audio source to recorder #1 was X, then the distance to recorder #2 was roughly X * 2.

Now, the two recording devices, from how far the crew seems to be standing away from the bed, I'll estimate were about 6 feet apart. It might be more, it might be less, but I think 6 feet is a fair estimate; this is more of a thought exercise than real science anyway. Assuming that's accurate, then the voice would be about 2 feet from R1 and 4 feet from R2. Listening to the R1 recording, to me it sounds like the whisper (if that is what it is) must come from within 6 inches of the microphone. This new estimate using R2 as an anchor point doesn't just place the source 4 times farther away than that, but because of the inverse-squared relationship it makes the sound about 16x louder than a human whisper should/could be.

…and even if you want to revise the results to be as conservative as possible and cut my distance estimates in half, then the sound is still 4x louder than makes sense, and we're still left with another unspoken issue: No one in the room seemed to react to it despite everyone being gathered in a circle that enclosed the presumed source of the sound, and the fact that it was clearly audible on a recorder (R2) one of them was holding. Does this mean it somehow existed on two recorders without actually being audible, or does it mean it was a normal sound that everyone in the room naturally dismissed at the time, but didn't remember or recognize during playback?

As usual, I've got no answers, but it's absolutely fascinating stuff and a real pleasure to have a highly controlled, extremely well documented situation like this to review because it gives us so much more to look at, compare and contrast. I hope to give MonsterQuest more write-ups going forward and I highly recommend the show to those of you who's interests extend into cryptozoology, which is the primary focus of the show.

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June 14, 2008

Oubliette @ 5:10 pm

Logisti, this is a great review. I must say that for some reason I kept missing this show. You have convinced me to set my recorder so that won't happen again.

You mention that blue gas station ghost. When I saw footage of it, I noticed when it made a turn, the outline of wings was visible for a split second. When I saw an attempt to recreate it as a bug, it convinced me that is definitely what it was.

Although I can't comment on the Ghosts episode since I haven't yet seen it (right now, I am downloading it from iTunes as I write this based on what you have posted here), your summation certainly provides food for thought.

Funny but my thinking was more along the lines of the Borden house NOT being haunted. First there is the psychological issue that no doubt influences a lot of people who visit there. The horrendous killings have become an actual part of our history. Also, just because terrible deaths have occurred in a house doesn't necessarily mean its haunted.

Gettysburg too carries with it the reputation of being an intensely haunted area. Trouble is, it also attracts a number of often none too reputable people who, because of its reputation, try to "prove" it's haunted by fair means or foul. Anxious to see that as well.

Have to check back here later after I have had a chance to see the show. Thanks for the heads up. I never would have noticed this episode if you hadn't written this review.

Logisti @ 10:53 pm

Oubliette, glad you enjoyed the read! re: the Borden house and the Gettysburg footage, I certainly don't propose the evidence proves a haunting. I'm just fascinated by the difficulty in finding solutions to the puzzles that fit both the evidence and the known scientific possibilities.

June 15, 2008

Stephen @ 2:24 am

Haven't watched the original show yet, but I had a look at the "people" clip. Some of the glints appear to be flickering point sources. They look like fireflies to me. Can't really say what the more fuzzy blobs are (maybe I'm in denial, but I'm not particularly seeing the outlines of people– at least not in the streaming-video version) but they seem to appear and disappear at about the same rate as the firefly-looking sources. Could fireflies, perhaps in a fog, in the trees, or out of focus, cause this effect? (Or possibly the fireflies distracted me and I'm missing the actual people somehow.)

I'm with them on the gas station ghost. Much has been made of the ghost's odd shade of blue. After the video initially came out, I was in an electronics store wearing a black jacket, and noticed that a security camera they had on display (which looked exactly like the one in the gas station) lightened up my jacket to very close to that shade of blue– it was part of the camera's night vision feature. So the ghost/bug was probably black.

Anyway, I wish Jeff Belanger the best– even if he did encourage Mike at an early age. :)

June 16, 2008

Wes @ 9:26 am

I agree, Logisti, that the investigative methods used by MQ are far superior to about anything in the paranormal realm on TV — I hope the show branches out from monster hunting to tackle some more famous ghost cases as they did last week …

What struck me about the Gettysburg footage the first time I saw it on the Internet and again on MQ was that the figures appeared evenly lit — i.e. no shadows as you'd expect to see on people (or ghosts?) walking through thick woods. I guess someone could opine that ghosts are "lit" in a different way … the effect always seemed to me to be of an image transposed and looped on a dark background.

But what has made me really skeptical about the footage is the fact that, for some still unknown reason, the person (his name escapes me) had obviously set up a tripod and was filming some non-distinct woods when the "ghosts" appear. Images captured on a handheld camera would be more believable to me as something caught by a tourist walking around Gettysburg, but would (because of the shakiness of image that comes from shooting long-range with a handheld camera) be harder to maniplulate than footage from a tripod-mounted camera.

… just my two cents.

Logisti @ 10:05 am

Wes, very interesting. I hadn't realized he was using a tripod, that does seem a little odd to go to that length in order to film an empty field. It's only circumstantial, to be sure, but it does make the notion that this might be a complex hoax seem more plausible.

June 19, 2008

Oubliette @ 2:07 pm

OK, have watched the show twice. My thoughts in no particular order:

1. Parma Gas Station - So obvious it's a bug that it's almost embarrassing! If something was out there, first off, nobody in the cars or the man walking towards the station noticed anything. Only those looking at the monitor saw it. This is a good example of how we cannot really judge how far away an object is from the camera lens–well, mostly all the time. Something to keep in mind whenever an anomaly is seen.

The debunking on the SAPS page using a living moth and allowing it to flutter in front of the lens was the clincher for me. The moth is blue and it looks transparent. Plus its movements matched those of the "thing" on the actual footage. As stated at the end of that debunk, national news coverage of a bug on a camera lens! Good job by MQ, but could have been better.

2. What I called the "Flying Cardinal". My immediate thought was "Where can I get one of these for my front porch as a Halloween decoration?" Easy debunk but again another lesson to be learned–don't jump to conclusions by labeling something a "ghost" too quickly.

3. Gettysburg - what struck me was the looping effect. What or how it was happening was not explained. Some good points already made here. No shadows. My husband said the leaves weren't moving either. Also, the bodies seemed to be wearing all the same Confederate uniforms. The latter might actually not have been the case in reality. The South began to run short of materials of all kinds and by this battle some of the soldiers were wearing uniforms made from plain brown cloth. Just a little historical fact to throw in.

I'm not convinced it wasn't a hoax. This needs further analysis by others in the field. Nothing against the man, but he did not come across as sophisticated enough to pull off anything very high tech. The jury is still out on this one…

4. The Borden House - Although many claims had been made of various types of evidence, we are left with only three things to really consider: the moving camera from a previous investigation, the heat signatures from Bridget's room and the evp's caught by MQ.

The camera-first thought was a cord that someone was inadvertently stepping or pulling on. But looking at the setup, I could not see any. What bothered me was the audible sound of the camera moving both times. The click could certainly be heard. Spooky.

Heavy traffic going by? What are the chances of that happening so close together? Also, vibrations would not make the camera turn, but rather shake it around a bit.
If this wasn't a hoax, I'm kinda stumped on this one.

Didn't someone mention the bottom of the chest was bronze? Could be it retained heat from previous sources and just held on to it longer then the rest of the room. And the big cold spot on the wall was probably what was speculated-a bit of slipshod work, probably when putting insulation in. The outline itself looks like a large hole that may have been knocked out of the wall during a rehab of the house. I would throw out the evidence from this room.

Finally, the EVPs. Have to agree with Logisti about the audio expert called in to analyse these. His credentials are no doubt impeccable, but his job is to identify voices coming from living human beings. If indeed these voices are from another frequency (which would explain why people in the same room can't hear them), then this man would have a hard time trying to identify whether they are human or not.

Even he was stumped by the "Soooo" one and the admittance that it must have been right near the microphone. But then the same could be said regarding the camera's mike that also picked it up. How is that possible? I have no idea whatsoever.

I usually don't agree with a lot of evps and think they are random noises that our brains try to interpret as voices. Yet that "Soooo" was obviously very human and distinct. Good catch by the MQ people.

With the Borden House, I would have to go with one of Jason's favorite conclusions. Can't say it's haunted, but something paranormal seems to be going on. It was good to see the inside of the place. I would love to visit it just because of its morbid past.

This episode is definitely a keeper.

June 30, 2008

Sully @ 4:15 pm

Nice to see you covering MonsterQuest, Logisti! I've been enjoying the series for several months, now. They tackle some interesting, offbeat issues.

I have to admit that the ghosts episode didn't do much for me. Nothing really new in terms of investigative techniques, other than stricter security during the Lizzie Borden visit. I liked the fact that they used law-enforcement experts to analyze the video and the audio. Still, it's the usual EVP/EMF/FLIR/DVR routine. Props to them for leaving the lights on, however, at least part of the time.

The paranormal enthusiasts who investigated the Borden house didn't seem particularly skeptical — looking to prove a haunting, instead of disprove it. They actually admitted they prefered to use less-capable recorders, because the high-end devices filter out too much. Not sure I agree with that. The EVPs were the usual — took too much imagination to hear the words. Could be a thousand rational explanations.

Regarding the audio captured in Lizzie's room, my understanding of prevailing EVP theory is that, if the EVP is captured on two indpendent devices in a room, then it's less likely to be authentic, since EVPs aren't supposed to be actual sounds, but energy manifestations that affect a specific electronic device. If, instead, this was an actual sound in Lizzie's room, why didn't anybody else in the room hear it? After all, it was loud enough to be picked up by two microphones at opposite ends of the room.

The Gettysburg footage appeared fake right off the bat. When the figure seems to "switch back" to the other side of the screen, it looks as though the image has actually reversed. And then it loops! I don't know what this is, or how they created it, but I don't believe it's a ghost, not for a second.

Overall, though, MonsterQuest definitely takes a more methodical approach than most shows that investigate the paranormal. The results are certainly more objective than what we've been seeing on GH, lately.

The MonsterQuest monster-hog episode is a favorite, but only because I'm from Texas. One cowboy who claims to have ridden a wounded monster hog is so obviously embellishing, it's downright charming — a least to a Texan who grew up listening to tall tales. You can see the ol' boy struggling not to laugh as he stretches out his story for the camera. I'll bet he's laughing plenty, now. :-)

July 12, 2008

Stephen @ 9:47 pm

Re the Parma Gas Station: here's a link to Captain Disillusion, a brilliant (and biting) web series taking on overhyped videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyR_WHEmO_4


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