April 9, 2008

GH: Wright-Patterson Air Force Base

This investigation takes place on an active U.S. Air Force Base, and not just any base. TAPS was invited to investigate at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. As the name suggests, this base has a rich history going back to the Wright Brothers but what the Ghost Hunters neglect to mention goingin is that it is most famous for one of it's airplane hangars.

Specifically Hangar 18 at Wright-Patterson is the place the military is supposed to have taken the alleged UFO (and/or alien bodies) after the crash as Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. Oddly enough, this actually did come up later in the investigation when Steve noticed a copy of "The Roswell Report" on someone's desk.

On their pre-investigation tour TAPS got briefed on a variety of interesting reports that happened on the base. Two that stand out (for different reasons) are the "woman" and the aluminum bars. Someone who had been working there late saw a woman looking out the window at her when she knew the building was empty. Other people had reported hearing their name called in a woman's voice when no one was around.

There is a warehouse-type area in the back where there is some equipment and a lot of aluminum bars. Several people have reported crashing sounds, as if the entire wall had come down, but turned on the lights to discover nothing seemed out of place. I wasn't too impressed with this report because if even a single one of those aluminum bars slipped down to a lower place in the pile it would be extremely loud and still appear like everything is normal and nothing out of place.

In the "Arnold House", which pre-dates the base, there are reports of footsteps on the stairs, children's voices and apparently many of these reports come from people who were using the bathroom at the time. Once again Grant mentioned he thought there was a primarily "residual" haunting going on. He does seem very persistent about that this season.

Inside the house Jay & Grant experienced a 9.0 spike on the EMF meter and started an EVP session. Jay asked the spirits to answer by knocking, and he got an apparent response to four questions in a row. It bothered me a little that Grant and Jay were sitting in different rooms and we couldn't see Grant the first time it happened, but for the 2nd and 4th question we could see him (but not Jay) and he didn't seem to engaged in any funny business.

Jay then asked for the bathroom door to close and it seemed like it did, although during the reveal Jay said it had a "tendency" to close, so I'm not too keen on using that as evidence. What happened next though, was impressive.

They decide to take Jay's flashlight, which seems to be a fairly rugged model with a on/off button on the back, and put it on the floor while asking any spirits in the room to turn it on. It turned on. Now, I've seen lots of flashlights with loose wiring go on and off while the flashlight is turned on, but I've never seen a stationary flashlight that was "off" turn itself "on" — and this flashlight didn't seem like the normal cheapo models that have wiring problems anyway.

Downstairs in the kitchen Kris and other investigator Krystyn were talking when they heard what seemed like a female giggle. I think we actually heard this on the audio also and it did seem a bit odd but nothing else seemed to happen.

Meanwhile Dave & Steve were in the dining room trying to get spirits to move a pair of candlesticks. They set up an EMF gauge and got "climbing" spikes that went from 0 to 0.8 then back to 0, up to 1.0, back to 0, 1.7 and according to Steve at one point it hit 2.0.

If these readings are in milligauss, as I suspect, then our research shows spikes up to 3.0 milligauss aren't considered scientifically significant and can be attributed to background radiation. The Ghost Hunters didn't seem to have read that report though, because they thought it was a pretty big deal. Nothing else happened there, though. That candlesticks stood their ground.

On the second night of the investigation the team investigated Building 70, where the offices are and where they began their tour on the first day. Again, Jay & Grant start the night off with the most impressive thing that would prove to happen all night.

They were in the back area (with the aluminum bars) and Jay said he saw something block out the light from a doorway on the far side of the room. He went down there to experiment with blocking out the light and Grant started calling out when the light was blocked, when it was unblocked, blocked again — but Jay hadn't actually moved yet. My primary reservation here (besides that there was no video evidence of this) is that we have only Grant's word on what he saw.

J&G were impressed though, and they tried to evoke a response but didn't seem to have any luck until they promised to leave if the "spirit" knocked twice. There did seem to be two knocks, so they left.

The girls also heard some knocking they couldn't track down, as did Dave & Steve but our favorite Tango considered the knocking debunked after a quick investigation led him to believe it was related to the heating pipes. Steve seemed to agree the explanation for the sounds was likely not paranormal.

On the next day the TAPS team apparently got some shore-leave and decided to spend it taking a tour of a C-5 Galaxy, the largest plane in the Air Force. If you've never seen one before, it's pretty impressive. As was pointed out, they can even transport some submarines inside.

During the analysis we got to see some close-up thermal footage — of a sound guy. And that's about that. All the other evidence shown during the reveal is stuff already known from the investigation. They had a nice setup with the cameras but once again, no apparent video evidence. Still, the flashlight turning on was definitely intriguing.

What do you guys think?

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April 9, 2008

Paul Anthony @ 10:25 pm

C-5 Galaxy the largest plane in the Air Force was very impressive and probably the most interesting part of the show.

What we got was, did you hear that, knock knock tap tap the same thing we have heard many times this season proves nothing. Jason requested the spirit make a noise and we can all agree we heard a tap shortly after the request.A tap or knock does not prove communication with a spirit.

I did not see the bathroom door shut, and I don't believe it was shown or mentioned on the reveal.

I've never seen a stationary flashlight that was "off" turn itself "on" — and this flashlight didn't seem like the normal cheapo models that have wiring problems anyway.

More flying bags. Just like Franks flying bag no one looked inside the bag to see if it contained camera equipment or cotton balls. No one examined the flashlight so we can either conclude it was a perfectly normal working light or it was tampered with. Again the show produced no evidence of the existance of spirits or ghosts.

Kevin @ 10:35 pm

Like you pointed out, Logisti, after the walkthrough Grant insisted on "residual" hauntings, which he's done a lot this season. But everything that happened on the show tonight contradicted that. There was a lot of interaction between TAPS and the supposed paranormal activity.

The woman giving the tour talked about the reports of the apparition of a woman dressed in clothes from another era (I don't remember exactly how she phrased it). I wonder if she was wearing a Victorian dress? That seems to be the most popular choice of female apparitions.

I can't explain the flashlight turning on.

Wes @ 10:57 pm

Agree that the flashlight was the most interesting evidence, but I'd like to know more about how the on/off button functions. The light almost seemed to flicker for a split second before coming on, almost as if there was battery contact that fluctuated (like how a loose light bulb will sometimes flicker) … but without an examination of the exact flashlight, we'll never know.

The best part of the episode … Kristyn didn't pull out the dowsing rods …

dread1 @ 11:05 pm

The flashlight was impressive as I havnt actually seen Jay get excited very much but he seemed to perk up and really get interested when that occured. My impression is he has seemed burned out for a while, maybe this will him excited again. I think deep down he needs his own event to get him going again and I think he is distrustfull of some of the the things that have went on, but doesnt wont to call people out and ruin long relationships, not to mention the gravy train.

dread1 @ 11:10 pm

Yeah that flicker though was more like pressure to come on started, built up and then boom. To me that actually enforces the event, as whatever force acted on it needed to build higher to push it on. Though we dont have the flashlight, I would say this is the most impressive single event Ive seen so far.

April 10, 2008

Dixie @ 8:25 am

I would have been more impressed with the flash light.. if they had tried again with a different flash light. I agree, Jasons reaction seemed real.

Mary @ 11:54 am

I liked the flashlight part, too. Other than the shadow in the lighthouse, it's been the most impressive thing I've seen on this show. (providing it's not special effects).

I have to laugh at the ghost-women always wearing Victorian clothes. Maybe they should alter their wardrobe and put on a flapper dress every once in a while. Or maybe a bridal gown. That would be nice and spooky.

Logisti @ 12:17 pm

Actually the girl said she saw what seemed like a woman "from another era". That doesn't necessarily mean Victorian — she might have meant the woman was wearing 1940's or 1950's style clothing. That would certainly stand out to someone today as being "from another era".

Jamie @ 1:41 pm

In regards to the flashlight… I own a flashlight that appeared to be very similar to the one in the episode. The button allows for the flashlight to be turned on without "clicking" the button on. Meaning, slight pressure will turn the light on. Releasing the pressure will turn the light off. This allows for quick use of the light without clicking it off and on. Having my young son play with my flashlight, when the source turning on the light struggles with the pressure needed to "click" the light on, you get that flicker effect.

Cody @ 2:57 pm

I agree with all of you. I'm actually stationed here at Wright Patterson AFB and am a paranormal investigator. I'm a mid shift cop so I've been in a lot of these places with some weird happenings. Personally if I were J&G I would have requested to go to some better places than building 70.

Flashlight equals impressive. I do think the Arnold House has something worth mentioning. As far as building 70. I've been in that building thousands of times. It's huge. There is no telling how many animals (birds, mice, etc.) live in that place. A "knocking" sound or unexplained noises don't excite me.

Want a good show? Go to the museum on base 3 am. I have. ;-)

Shannon @ 4:01 pm

In watching the Wright-Patterson AFB show last night on DVR, my husband and I both noticed something that was not in the reveal. When Jay and Grant were in the warehouse and they were asking for 2 taps, the cameraman went around the room and behind a fan (just like what Jay and Grant were standing behind) a black shawdow poked out. This happened twice, because the cameraman swept the same area again. Did anyone else notice this???

Sandsy04 @ 6:31 pm

I think the point for showing Grant talking about a residual haunt again had more to do with what he said right after. He said, "It sounds like it could be a residual haunt going on, but often when we think that, it turns out to not be one at all." And the episode proved that it was not.

They should go back and do the house again in another episode. Way more interaction went on there than the warehouse. The warehouse just seemed to be a lot of noises that can be easily explained. I work in a building set up very similar to that one and noises come and go all of the time, but that's all they are, noises.

But the flashlight was very impressive. I didn't see any trickery going on either. They actually framed it very well. You could see all the way into the bathroom and there was no one there. Definitely some interesting evidence.

Logisti @ 7:42 pm

I only mentioned the "residual haunting" thing because it's something that was mentioned a couple of times over the first few seasons, but suddenly this season it seems Grant is talking about how it might be a "residual haunting" at the beginning of every second investigation.

I don't have any hypothesis for why he's suddenly on a "residual haunting" kick, but it just seems like he is for some reason. Like in the Library a few weeks ago the Librarian said he hears banging and then when he calls out for the ghost to stop, it stops. Shortly thereafter Grant is saying he thinks it's probably a "residual haunting" as if he was just dying to say that even though it didn't match up with what he'd just been told.

Similarly here, the girl who gave the tour before this investigation said several employees heard a woman call their name when no one was around. A couple of hours later Grant mentions how it might be a residual haunting (although he did qualify it this time, as you mentioned) despite that making zero sense considering the reports of names being called.

As I said, I have no idea what — if anything — it might mean, but it strikes me as very odd that he's not only mentioning it much more frequently, but mentioning it at times when it doesn't even match with the information he was just briefed on.

Logisti @ 7:48 pm

Shannon, I have it on DVR as well. Where in the episode (after which commercial break, about how many minutes in, etc) would you estimate this is. I'd like to take a look at it.

June @ 7:59 pm

Um, I have a few skeptical questions (forgive me, but this *is* the site for such things, right?). Despite my own feeling that the flashlight was pretty amazing, I'm trying to think about how it *could* have been faked. First of all, why put a flashlight on the floor and ask the spirit to turn it on? Has this been done before on a GH episode? (Yes, there *are* other items that GH'ers have asked to be "handled"–a child's ball, a pen, and so forth). I guess it's standard for the GH'ers to ask for the manipulation of a physical object. But the flashlight is new to me (I confess I haven't seen every single episode). Perhaps it was Jay's sudden whim.

But was there a space beneath that hallway–a basement, for example? Given that it was an old house, the floorboards could be rather thin. Could the flashlight have been "ready to turn on in a flash," as Jamie implicitly suggested, even inadvertently? And could someone have thumped upward on the floor from below just to see what would happen?

I know, I'm being awful, questioning our general trust in Jay and Grant. But my main objective is not to question them as much as it is to try to figure out how something like this could happen *without* paranormal activity. In other words, is this phenomenon explainable in other ways?

Let me say, though, that I had an experience with a very similar request–asking two "spirits," who had identified themselves via a Ouija board, to turn on–and off–a pair of light bulbs in a ceiling fixture in the room. The "spirits" seemingly obliged. (Yes, it was incredibly freaky, and I will soon submit the story in detail to our Possibly Paranormal forum for possible "earthly" explanations).

The flashlight incident reminded me a lot of my own experience.

dread1 @ 9:02 pm

Im guessing the residual haunting thing has just became a habit for him to mention, he probaly doesnt even realize how many times he says it. Sort of like an easy out to say to people, oh its probaly residual, thats so common, lol.

As to someone under the floor bumping the light on, that goes back to me wondering if someone was under the table pulling the lamp (2 plug in at the end). It would be hard to guess if getting under the floor in the right position is possible, but it doesnt seem that likely if they hadnt been there before.

Logisti @ 9:12 pm

June, the questioning is totally cool but as for your hypothesis I'm not sure banging on the floor would a) turn the flashlight on and b) it would probably make the flashlight bounce and jitter.

More likely would be a classic wiring short — which Jason acknowledged as a possibility. I don't think that sort of flashlight is prone to it though, and as was mentioned the flickering is consistent with the way that type of switch works — if you don't press it in hard enough to "click" on then it will go on momentarily, but a little less pressure and it will go off. Keep the pressure right around that area and it can flicker on and off, which is consistent with what we see and with an alleged spirit trying to turn it on.

This was the first time I've seen Jay ask a spirit to turn the flashlight on, but I don't necessarily see anything odd about that. I think they're occasionally (not often enough) coming up with new ideas for experiments and I think that's a good thing.

As for trying to think up ways an experiment might have been tampered with, or how the results might point to another (more mundane) explanation, keep thinking. We like trying to pull a piece of evidence apart every which way, putting it under a microscope and thinking creatively about it because the kind of evidence we want to see, the kind that will impress everyone, is the kind of evidence that can survive that kind of intense scrutiny.

Scott @ 9:45 pm

Having been to the Arnold house several times, I have heard the stories though never experienced anything. I should note that most the Base's buildings are heated with steam pipes from one of four generating stations. I suspect some of the knocking heard might come from the pipes.

Other places of interest on WPAFB are buildings 280 and 281. Both buildings were used to inter Japanese during WWII and I have heard many stories about those two buildings. I think building 281 was demo'd a couple of years ago.

Also, over by the Huffman Prairie where the Wright brothers first tested their aircraft, I have heard of silhouettes in the dusk hours and at night.

'til later,
Scott

Todd @ 9:49 pm

I believe there was an attempt to have reported child spirits turn on a flashlight. It may have been Steve, though. It seems like it may have been the first Stanley Hotel investigation. In that case they laid the flashlight on the bed, not the floor (if I'm remembering correctly).

April 11, 2008

Brandon @ 3:25 am

I actually had something similiar happen to my LED flashlight at work a few months ago. I dropped the flashlight while trying to fix my computer. The flashlight was on and never shut off. I picked it up and clicked it a few times. The button appeared loose, but otherwise worked fine. When I left for the evening, I shut the lights off and the flashlight turned on. Since it was late and no one was in the office, it kind of freaked me out. I walked towards the light and it shut off, which, of course, made the situation worse. Using my common sense, I took apart the flashlight and discovered that the battery contact had seperated from the button and turned on the light.

Now, I am not saying that this is what happened here, but it illustrates how poorly these "investigations" are conducted. Why not try another flashlight? Or perhaps ask the "spirit" to repeat the action an addition time with the camera rolling. Maybe even place the flashlight in a different location. And why aren't Jason and Grant each carrying cameras to document these situations? We would have seen the door open, the flashlight turn on, etc.

Also, asking how many "of you are their" is kind of pointless if you don't confirm the results. Having the "spirits" knock 5 times, or simply counting back from ten would do just fine. Anything that would confirm the number 5.

As an avid "ghost investigator" myself, it bothers me how cavaliar TAPS is becoming to the most obvious of conclusions. Recent EVPs, EMF readings, "eye witness" accounts, and Kris's strange feelings have further hurt the credibility of the field. As the show seeks to maintain its audience share, I am finding that Jason is becoming more willing to accept evidence as being convincing. This and the cheap sound and editing effects are really hurting the quality of the show. It is just a shame that the nation's leading paranormal show has such low standards.




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