Nice.

Update: Apparently the doorway we are looking at is not a double doorway, but is surrounded on either side by steel bars (like a prison cell). There is no physical "door" where the opening is but there are a number of dark-colored doors nearby (leading into rooms off the hallway) which were left open and one of them might account for the dark rectangle on the right of the opening. Either way, that area to the right of the doorway isn't remotely visible and could easily hide a person with room to spare.

IT is crazy to see this as one of their episodes because I went to the JOb corps that they are at, and we used play hide and seek next to those buildings to try and scare each other. Also in my dorm, fellow students would hear things at night, and see things…we tried to tell the dorm chief but they did not listen..I bet they are now.

I had a listen to the "singing" noise. To me, it sounded like a fairly simple woodwind-type sound– something which could be caused by many different things, like wind blowing outside the attic.

What is that dark area this alleged thing steps out of, and disappears back into? If there's an empty doorway surrounded by iron grating, a hallway which we seem to be looking down, and a light source far along the corridor; why is that area showing black?

The bottom shot seems to show a leg pushing off and into the dark area.

Shades of the Nike ghost
Again!

I don't believe there is any way possible for that small of a shadow could hold up a curtain or sheet that high..That looks to me like a child figure. Last time i checked there were no kids in TAPS..I doubt they staged this.

The footage wasn't that impressive, however to accuse the TAPS team of creating a hoax is ridicules. If the sci-fi crew were to report any hoaxing, TAPS would lose all credibility and would be laughed out of the field. I believe there are to many unexplained occurrences world wide to have to fake anything.

I too went to Job Corps there ( 1989-90). In all the buildings we went into, there were no double doors in the hall ways. We did get into many buildings that were locked up including the tunnel systems that connected every building to one another. I have not seen the episode yet and was wondering if they showed the tunnels. When I was there I saw and heard many things that most of the time we could explain but, on occasion there were things that really freaked me out. The things that would happen in my dorm alone were strange enough( for example foot steps be hind you in the stairway when it was just you). I had heard about the nurse but never saw her. There was a guy that was at Job Corp with me that drowned one Saturday morning at a lake in a town nearby. The night before, at our friday night dance he kept talking about this woman. He was acting unusual the whole night. He would keep mentioning this woman in white but no one saw her when he would try to point her out. We all wondered if this woman he kept talking about was the "Nurse".

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once this has happened there was no proof of them showing the shadow reapeating so this could be a blur on the tape.
If they had more proof i could belive that there is ghosts. as said before the humming could have been just wind going of the pipes in a way to make sound.

I don't know how many people do know the history of northern state hospital, but I do, I lived in sedro-woolley all my life and I would not dare step in that place. It freaks me out. The cemetary on helmic rd is scary to. They lost alot of lives at NSH and the grave site has number to id the pt not names. I would believe every story that came out of that place to be true. The rooms still have medical equ. in them. If you talk to anyone that lives in Sedro-Woolley they could tell you that place is haunted. I guess for the people that don't believe it, just need to see that place.

i think it is very valid to think a place looks and feels creepy. and it would be off-putting to still see medical equipment in the place. but i think this might make us believe we see and feel a haunting. if i'm watching a scary movie a lone in my basement, i just start to feel totally creeped out and like some ghost is about to come grab me or come down the stairs. and my basement is not creepy at all.

i'm just trying to say, just because a place looks and feels haunted and scary can make us more susceptible to seeing "ghosts" or attributing natural occurrences to ghosts. that's why i would like to see, and look for on GH, real evidence.

At our website, http://www.skagitriverjournal.com, you can read a full history of Northern State Hospital, which is three miles northeast of Sedro-Woolley, Washington, far away from Seattle. The hospital was built in 1910 as a home for the "criminally insane." As part of the nationwide closing of mental facilities in the 1970s, NSH was closed in 1976. Cascade Job Corps is now the principal tenant.

It is a beautiful 1,200-acre campus, which used to be self-sustaining, with a dairy, laundry, greenhouse and buildings designed in mission-style. My father worked there for 25 years, leading crews of patients who were able to work outside, something they enjoyed immensely. Although there were occasional rumors here and there over the years, the "ghost" stories did not begin in earnest until the Job Corps students came in large numbers in the 1980s.

Our section has five different stories about the hospital and patients. The intro story is at:
http://www.skagitriverjournal.com/NearbyS-W/NSH/NSH1-Intro.html
The Sedro-Woolley High School students in recent years have conducted an extensive program of restoring the cemetery there that was allowed to deteriorate in the decades since the closing, and they have erected a memorial on the campus.

This episode was shown again last week. Seeing this "apparition" pop in and out of the doorway reminds me of two other instances where supposed ghosts play peek-a-boo: the Eastern State Penitentary and the Moon River Distillery. The Eastern State apparition is a shadowy figure (looking like a person under a black sheet) moving toward the camera then quickly moving away. The Moon River apparition (some say it looks like the head of a mop) darts quickly behind the pool table then runs back out of sight, probably into an alcove behind the pool table. Another instance of peek-a-boo is the apparition leaning over the staircase in the St. Augustine lighthouse.

Why are these "ghosts" so shy? Or do they just enjoy playing hide-and-seek? Ghosts can be such teases! You would almost think they know they are being filmed. Maybe they need to hide because if caught, they may prove to be something less than paranormal.

I've wondered the same thing myself, but you also have to ask, if an entity has to work so hard to draw energy just to make a brief appearance (like TAPS suggests they do), then why do they always manifest in a room where no one happens to be at the time?

Your commentary is thought provoking. I watch the show mostly for the entertainment value but really never looked at it from the skeptical view. It makes me question what I remember from the show.
The Ghost Hunters have their own website and they welcome posts from the public. They encourage differing viewpoints on their investigations. You should post this information on their site.

Morgan, I've found that the TAPS boards aren't too open to this kind of criticism at all. I've shared my views many times on there and was almost always run out by the legions of fans on there who believe 100% of what they see on the show.

I do remember when the Savannah episode aired, there were some discussing the fishiness of the Moon River "ghost" (the one that ducked behind the pool table and back) on a thread about the subject. Someone who actually knew the Moon River club had brought up the fact that Jason said in the episode there was no other way in or out of that room. However, this person maintained that there is a doorway right where that "apparition" pops out from, which couldn't be seen from that angle.

This, of course, stirred up a lot of controversy and within a few days that entire thread was deleted and a few of the people arguing against the evidence were banned – no explanation or denials by anyone within TAPS.

I also find it suspicious that TAPS keeps "renovating" their message boards every so often and all the prior posts are lost and everyone has to re-register. Once you do, you find that the "new" boards look exactly the same as the old board, but all the threads about old episodes are lost (many of which began to have dissenters pointing out flaws in the evidence, some even suggesting hoaxes). Co-incidence?

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My boyfriends family lives in Sedro Woolley and his brother used to work at the rehab cented located on the same property and he has told us about things that he's heard. I am truely afraid of this place. I've seen it with my own eyes and would never ever EVER dare to step foot in there. I just wish all you non-believers could see it to understand how scary it really is.

Actually I live in Redmond Washington, and I have seen the place, and yes it's creepy beyond all reason.

But there is a proverb: "If you pursue fear, fear pursues you." I'm not saying there's nothing paranormal or supernatural there. But the fact that someone goes there LOOKING for something paranormal or out of the ordinary creates a psychological threshhold. Data, experiences, and senses are interpreted differently BECAUSE we were creeped out to begin with.

Here's an example: Say I invited someone to my perfecty ordinary workplace with modern architecture. But now I make up a story that someone died on the premeses during construction and objects are being moved around the building, shadows are seen, and disembodied voices can be heard. Even if I inform the guest I was kidding, I guarentee that guest will always have a slight twinge of "creepiness" when coming into the building.

Amplify that to something like Northern State, and you're guarenteed a high probabibility that someone will experience something out of the normal. They may truly experience something, or they may just be blowing something normal out of proportion. But there is a psychology behind all this that acts as a variable.